This last episode with the pregnancy........

**Red Phoenix** · October 20th, 2001, 10:15 PM

Is this what mad scientists do, now? They make freak people, and then put them on the web?

**apb3** · October 21st, 2001, 11:15 PM

(1) I kinda thought that the temporally shifted individual might be a/the Q... Might allow for some cameo appearances and far out plot lines.

(2) I did notice the HMS Enterprise on the Captains wall. Was that the real original Enterprise? Any history buffs out there - REAL EARTH history? Next week I'll look for the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise.

**RacerX** · October 22nd, 2001, 01:44 AM

They have the color coding now, Red Phoenix. The command is tan/mustard stripes, engineering/security has red stripes, and science/medical is blue stripes (like the original series).

As for showing ALL the ships named Enterprise, they have never done a good job of it. Our current Enterprise (CVN-65) is forty years old now, but is not the first carrier Enterprise (CV-6) that was in World War II. And yet you only see one "carrier" photo and any of the paintings or drawings (ST:TMP, ST:TNG, or Enterprise).

The NX is given to ALL ships that are not yet a "class". The Excelsior was NX-2000, but later was changed to NCC-2000 when others (many others) like her were made. The notable part of the Enterprise's number is the "01" part. Up to now, most people who followed Star Fleet design assumed that like our early Navy, Star Fleet was made up of ships made for other uses and organizations that became ships of Star Fleet when it was formed. So this would make me believe that this is the first ship designed and built by and for Star Fleet. Like the first ships of our Navy (design but Joshua Humphreys) NX-01 looks like it is supposed to be a design far beyond anything before her (much like the Constitution, Constellation, Congress, United States, President and Chesapeake were).

If you were wondering what the Enterprise (CV-6) looked like, here is an image of her before she was scraped in the late 50's.

**apb3** · October 22nd, 2001, 06:39 AM

Thanks racerx.

Knew about our two Enterprises but did the British have more than one. I'm going to do a search today if I can find the time but you seem to have a wealth of knowledge on hand in that brain of yours... I don't think the Brits have an Enterprise in service now, do they?

**Red Phoenix** · October 22nd, 2001, 07:11 AM

Wow, I didn't even notice the color coding. Actually, the reminds me of the one interesting thing they took notice to do: after Kirk, supposedly Starfleet instituted the common-sense "don't send the Captain down there" policy. Since this is Pre-Common Sense period, they keep sending the captain down. It bothers the heck out of me, but at least it's consistent.

**AdmiralAK** · October 22nd, 2001, 07:19 AM

LOL...
They were explorers...(with balls

) so I guess having the captain go down wasnt so bad

I am sure if warf was a captin he would head the missions himself

**RacerX** · October 22nd, 2001, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by apb3
... I don't think the Brits have an Enterprise in service now, do they?

I don't know. I didn't follow their Naval history that closely (I was actually doing research for a model of the Constitution when I got very involved in our early Naval history). I know that they still have the HMS Victory (though it is not in as good a shape as the USS Constitution is, which is still concidered active), the HMS Enterprise is the only one I seem to remember seeing, but I also don't think they like to give ships the same names (the only example I could find was HMS Ark Royal I & II, but I would have thought that they would have a new HMS Hood by this point in time).

As for following the original series closely, I would have thought that Archer would be the first to get pregnant (I know that it would have been Kirk if this had been the original crew). Maybe this was to re-enforce the need for safe space-sex.

I also like the idea that the time travel guy has changed history for this period (2150's), but now we have to wonder if anyone from the old time line is even going to be born. Quite an interesting dynamic.

**AdmiralAK** · October 22nd, 2001, 12:00 PM

Space sex eh ???
Gimme a vulcan and I am happy

Klingons are too violent.... dont wanna break (or get anything cut off

)
Romulans...too suspicious...
Ferenghi....lets just say they age baddly
eh... I guess human as a last resort lol.

As for the time thing, I think that most of the characters will be born. (we cant have a star trek w/o Captain james T kirk lol)

Admiral