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| I hope we can get something together, Adam. We can only pity poor Wacom, which is too shortsighted to appreciate the value of its longtime cheapskate customers. |
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| I have a B&W G3 which has usb and and adb port and a Wacom Digitizer II. Is there any way I could get the tablet to work plugged into the adb port under os x? |
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| WACOM has no plans to support serial or ADB tablets under Mac OS X. Hopefully someone at least as skilled as Strobe will remedy this situation. |
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| Wacom is trying to get everyone to buy thier new equipment, and not everyone can afford it! They can kiss my shiny behind if they think they can bully me into wasting my money! The ADB tablets will work just as fine in due time. You can be sure someone will come out with a Driver or Hack. I wouldnt be surprised if it becomes better then wacom's own implementation! Wacom drivers never worked real well anyway! I don't know, but after spending loads of cash on the ADB tablet + the iMate (which Apple forced us to buy because the new macs had no ADB port) Im pretty pissed off! I could, without question, understand Apple's move. Though they should have done it gradually. But now, with the whole OSX not supporting old ports as well as Wacom trying to get people to upgrade. I can't help but to be extremely dissapointed at the lack of compassion and support for thier long time customers. |
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| Here is a link to a sourceforge project website which "manages the libraries, configuration, and diagnostic tools for Wacom tablets running under Linux. It also maintains updated linux kernel drivers and XFree86 XInput drivers." http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/ I think this could be very helpful to the OSX developer who wants to create OSX drivers for the ADB tablets. |
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| There are reasons why the ADB based Wacom adapters don't work under Mac OS X, and it goes right down to the data transfer libraries that drive the operating system. Wacom have made it clear that they simply cannot support any ADB devices under Mac OS X, and they've made it up to users by offering a cost-only upgrade to all ADB wacom tablets that have a separate logic board (which is most of the larger sized tablets). Since this involves replacing the logic board it will be pricey, but is still cheaper than buying a new tablet in the case of the larger sizes. Full info on this is on the Wacom support site.
__________________ - iMac G5 1.8GHZ 17" | SuperDrive | 160GB | 512MB | Airport Extreme | Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse | Wacom Intuos II - Pentax *ist DL - JVC MiniDV Camcorder - Airport Express - iPod Nano 1gb white |
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| Well, Wack-com wants $164 plus shipping to do the upgrade, and it's only available to owners of "Intuos and Intuos2 12x12 & 12x18 tablets". Not much help to the majority of users with the Artz tablets. But it dose provide a cheaper path to owners of the mentioned tablets. However, thats a steep price for what it is! Griffin technology have created drivers to make their imate work under OSX. http://griffintechnology.com/softwar...are_imate.html Unfortunetly unless the third party manufacturer provides support for OSX it's really just about useless. Taken directly from Griffin's website: "iMate is completely compatible with Apple's latest operating system, OS X. Drivers are available now and can be downloaded here: http://griffintechnology.com/softwar...are_imate.html However, this does not necessarily mean that your device attached to iMate is OS X compatible. Be sure to check with the manufacturer of your ADB device to see if they support OS X. If they do, then you can use it with our iMate ADB-to-USB Adapter." I know drivers could probablly be made to allow these ADB tablets to work properly under X. Darwin, the core of OSX which is a derivitive of Unix. Can be modified to support ADB devices and allow OSX users to install the modified kernal or whichever portion needs changing to allow all ADB devices to work as far as I know. The Linux comunity has been manipulating it's OS like this for years. So I really can't see why it can't be done, and done stable. Apple just wants to leave the old stuff behind, but strangely, Microsoft has never removed support for it's old ports. Even in Windows XP! Why? Why else? To support their users and their investments. If you have a Windows PC you could use the imate adapter and run your ADB tablet on it. And XP isnt a bad system, it's ugly, but it's not bad. I would'nt go out and buy a windows system just for my tablet though, thats just silly. But if your in the market for one, it's an option for you. That and booting into OS9. Since i'm not loyal to any OS. I have no reserves using Windows or any other OS that provides what i need. There are benefits and negitives to each system. Personally I still enjoy OSX over XP, but I have found XP more favourable in some instances, especially in the game market! Which I enjoy. But Also with the x86 hardware. If I could have OSX on X86 hardware I would be very happy. Last edited by Lord-Chin; February 9th, 2004 at 02:01 PM. |
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| I was reading this old thread and saw this program, I don't know if it's of use yet, but give it a go http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Drivers/TabletMagic.shtml TabletMagic description Download Open Source Mac OS X driver and control panel for serial and ADB Wacom tablets in Mac OS X. This project intends to expand to support other obsolete tablet brands. A full C++ tablet daemon and prototype control panel are already implemented, KEXT planned. You see, I've got one of those old Wacom ArtZ-II tablets. The 12x12 one. It's huge, with a glossy surface and a really nice feel. I bought this beauty the same day I got my first Mac. Yep, this tablet and me, we've been through a lot together. So you can imagine our sadness when we learned that Wacom had abandoned us. I groused about it and joined the chorus of voices calling for Wacom to support our beloved tablets, but they wouldn't budge. Undaunted, I visited Wacom's web site and downloaded every PDF and code sample they had. And they had a lot. In fact they even have new documentation explaining how to make Mac OS X programs understand Wacom-style and Apple-style tablet events. Very helpful. From Wacom's documentation I was able to build a REALbasic program to interpret tablet events. More recently I learned from a reliable source how to send complete tablet events to the system and chopped together a daemon in C++. With all the pieces in place the TabletMagic Project was finally brought into the light. Is TabletMagic Really Magic? The short answer, no. Just the practical kind. The Keyspan USA28X serial adapter communicates reliably with the Wacom ArtZ-II tablet at both 9600 and 19200 baud. This places no stress whatsoever on the USB system. 19200 baud - or 19.2 K per second - is very low bandwidth compared to the full potential of USB 1 (1.2 Megabytes per second). Wacom tablets can communicate at the full speed they were designed for -- and they do so very well in Mac OS X. Mac OS X has really good built-in support for serial ports. Apple follows a standard called POSIX (Portable Operating System Interface) which provides a strong yet simple model for I/O. Because of the proven viability of this standard, Mac OS X will always have excellent OS-level support for serial devices - including all "legacy" devices like Wacom tablets. All any serial device needs to work with Mac OS X is a compatible connector and the software to drive it. What's New in This Release: · Basic multi-monitor support. Applescript to "renice" the daemon. · Changes: Daemon init changed to account for a potential bad startup message, taking a cue from the linux-wacom project. |
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