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Old March 18th, 2005, 11:53 AM
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Angry Dead G3 ??

Ok here is the problem and any help is appreiciated.
(This is my first mac and only had it for five days so bear with me...)
G3 blue and white tower with a 450 Mhz processor 256 meg and a 10 Gig drive (HD has been wiped)

Mac will not boot from CD,goes straight to a screen with a folder in the centre (with a face and question mark)
Tried booting in single user mode so i can run fdsk by holding command and s.
But machine WILL NOT enter single user mode ( iam doing it right as I have tried on the mac at work)
Have also reset the Pram twice,the second time we managed to get an apple on screen when booting from cd but this turned into a no entry sign and froze up (I can no longer get this far)

I have removed all the memory and replaced one by one but no joy.
I have also removed the Lithium battery in the hope that this might reset somthing but it hasn't.
Also tried holding down shift on start up but no joy.

This is a baptism of fire for my first mac experiance and I would really appreiciate some help.

I do have a copy of disk warrior but i presume you need an OS installed to get this to boot anyway (which it won't and the hard drive is empty).

I look forward to hearing your thoughts,is there something really simple I am missing? ( I am a proper novice when it comes to macs)
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Old March 18th, 2005, 12:31 PM
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dfemorton,
Are you pressing the C key while trying to boot from the CD?

You do not need an operating system to run Disk Warrior. If you have the DW CD, press the C key while starting up... the CD has operating systems on it.

Obviously, if you have wiped the HD, you must startup from the system install CD and install an operating system before anything can work.

Good luck,
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Old March 18th, 2005, 12:38 PM
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Hi Clay.
Yes I am holing down c as soon as the mac boots.
I have also tried to run disk warrior from scratch but this wil not boot.
Am i correct in saying that the Mac should be able to run singe user mode regardless of have the OS installed or not??
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Old March 18th, 2005, 03:33 PM
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Since you can do anything without gui in single user mode... to have e.g. "fsck" recognized there, you should have a system installed to run it.
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Old March 18th, 2005, 03:47 PM
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Maybe you can find something here that'll help:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50122

You have to be able to boot from a CD to install an operating system. I'm no expert, but there must be a problem with PRAM, the CUDA reset, Firmware, or even the Hard Drive which keeps your Mac from recognizing a startup system.

Sorry I can't help more,
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Old March 18th, 2005, 03:51 PM
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What kind of install disks are you using? Retail? Or some OS X install disks that are grey in color and possibly for a different machine?
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Still no joy whatsoever on this one....

Someone did suggest thtat the PRAM battery may need replacing.
Does anyone know of any imp[lications of doing this?
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I am using a black OSX panther disk.
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