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Old December 17th, 2005, 06:50 PM
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Also, judging from both my personal experience and all the statistics I've ever heard on the matter, most Mac users replace their computers only every 4 or 5 years (PC users average about 2). Look at the systems that are 4-5 years old, and that will also lend a clue as to why many people still use OS 9. I bought my old iMac less than 5 years ago, and like I said, OS X was not fun to use on it. My brother, who has the same model iMac, sticks with OS 9, because the advantages of X (newer applications, better stability) simply don't outweigh the disadvantages (the need for all new apps, learning a new system, and, of course, speeeed). He'll keep using OS 9 until he buys a new computer, which will probably be next month.

Even putting hardware aside, $129 is an awful lot for a new OS. Many people never pay for OS upgrades at all. It's too much trouble, and too expensive. They just stick with whatever was pre-installed on their computer. And if you compare OS 9 to 10.0 or even 10.1, it's obvious that OS 9 is the better choice. OS X was utter crap until 10.1, and IMHO, it only became really good with Jaguar. Also, today not many OS X apps even run on 10.1.
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Like alot of the others have said, we like our old mac just cuz they keep their value. Practical people won't just chuck something just cuz its old. If it works fine and you have no probs with it... Then there isn't any good reason to chuck it. A friend of mine finally upgraded to a new G5 iMac after his old Generation 1 iMac just couldn't run any of the applications he needed.

I personally still have my old G4 450mhz dually. It runs great. Changed out the DVD-ROM for CD burner/DVD player combo drive, added 1GB of RAM to the original 128MB, added a 300GB hdd so I have a total of 330GB of hdd space, tossed the old 16MB ATI Pro for a ATI Radeon 9000(64MB). Soon I will have to upgrade that cuz I work and play on my mac. As games require more power, will soon have to either upgrade to totally new system or upgrade the CPU and Video card.

But right now, its holding its own pretty well. I don't do high intense number crunching applications. That is why I haven't done too much to it. I use OS 10.3 without too much problems and I just am too attached to just throwing it away. It is my first mac since I switched and it has a "special" place in my heart. Some of you out there know what I mean.

Anyways, at least I know there are others that feel the same way I do about older Macs.
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Old December 18th, 2005, 08:57 AM
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It's funny you should mention that about your G4 dually, psychicVTEC. My wife's cousing just bought himself a used G4 dually 500 MHz from someone he knows. The thing came loaded with 2 GB of RAM and he's got Tiger running on it. He also owns an AMD rig that he built on his own and has tricked out completely. You'd be surprised to find out which machine he's keeping.

Mind you, he has a laptop that has a mobile P4, but personally I think he was better off with the desktop Athlon over the laptop. But alas, he sold that one on eBay and decided to use the Power Mac G4 as his main machine. Personally, I have to say that it's a testament to how much value these older computers have, and I'm glad to say that I will be enjoying the same longevity from my iMac G5.
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i got an old 5500 starmax in storage nix. one of these days i'll dig it out and will have to have you help me install some flavor of unix on it. i did try downloading and installing linuxppc on my 7500 at one point in my life, but failed miserablly. yse, os x is unix based, and i have it on my g4, but it would still be fun and educational to run a pure unix on my older hardware. i'm bad, once i get my hands on a working mac, i never let go. i got -gasp- over 12, most of which are 68k.
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i got an old 5500 starmax in storage nix. one of these days i'll dig it out and will have to have you help me install some flavor of unix on it. i did try downloading and installing linuxppc on my 7500 at one point in my life, but failed miserablly. yse, os x is unix based, and i have it on my g4, but it would still be fun and educational to run a pure unix on my older hardware. i'm bad, once i get my hands on a working mac, i never let go. i got -gasp- over 12, most of which are 68k.
Welcome to the club, we've got jackets! </Shrek>

Considering that you and I frequent another forum dedicated to 68K Macs, this doesn't surprise me one bit.

If you need any help installing Linux on that puppy, let me know. Linux/ppc has gotten much better through the years, but of course it's nothing like installing it on a PC, especially when it's an Old World Mac (New World Macs install the latest Linux distros very easily).

Trust me. If it weren't for my wife, this house would be filled to the brim with various generations of Macs...and yes, even some PCs, Amigas, and some other 80s computers as well.
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The fact is that some of us are not rich like you. I don't have five ipods, a powermac g4 and a imac g5. I am stuck with powermac g3s and powerbook g3 wallstreets. And i am your age. But the fact is that even if you have better things than me doesn't mean your smarter than me or people on this forum. I am saving as much money as i can for a powermac g4 with agp graphics. Stop being a retard and don't post here anymore. you are not welcome. I believe classic is still great. And you should consider people value old computers and have of course earned them and don't get bought really expensive stuff from apple. I do use os x.4 but i still value os 9. I am the better person than you. I know more than you and I value older computers.
The only mac that is actually mine is the g3 WHICH DOSENT WORK so you have more than me so stop moaning
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