Rhapsody Support/Development Site - Page 2

#1 Rhapsody · #9 February 5th, 2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RacerX

I've said it before and it is worth saying again... the best OS in the world is worthless without applications.

I know, that's why I am going to use Rhapsody to further my programing abilities. Does the developers versions of Rhapsody have programing documentation? Also, if anyone wants to help with programing PM me. I will soon have my site up with forum. I'll post its address here as soon as its done.

**fryke** · #10 February 5th, 2009, 06:59 PM

But that's what I don't quite understand... If you _do_ have a more or less current Mac with Leopard running on it, you get the developer tools for free with the OS. That way you can further your programming skills and actually have a _target audience_. Not only will an audience provide you with money (eventually) as your skills get better, your skills will get better, because there's an audience! You'll learn far more about where you went wrong (or if not wrong then maybe off the consumer's wishes) if you actually have an audience.

Develop the best little utility you want for Rhapsody, but as long as you don't also release it for a platform that's actually in wider use, the whole enterprise will be like swimming on dry land. Am I so wrong about this?

#1 Rhapsody · #11 February 5th, 2009, 07:57 PM

I know I won't have much of an audience by using Rhapsody but I want to do it for fun. Maybe I'll make something that will help RacerX out, since he has helped me (I'm sorry but I can't donate money to you, RacerX

).

#1 Rhapsody · #12 February 6th, 2009, 04:56 PM

I have my site up and running! Here it is. The forums are the only part of the site that is really running. The ads are to help pay for the site. If you have any problems tell me.

#1 Rhapsody · #13 February 6th, 2009, 05:38 PM

RacerX, can I use your Rhapsody cd picture for the icon of my site?

Thanks,
#1 Rhapsody

RacerX · #14 February 7th, 2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by #1 Rhapsody

RacerX, can I use your Rhapsody cd picture for the icon of my site?

I have a number of pictures of the CDs, but sure... I don't really have any restrictions for the use of anything on my site.

So... just out of curiosity, have you checked to see how Rhapsody-friendly the site is in OmniWeb 3.x on a Rhapsody system?

The two reasons for building everything on my Rhapsody site in Rhapsody (using Rhapsody native applications) was to (1) insure that other Rhapsody systems would have access and (2) show that you really could do something with Rhapsody (besides just look at it). I would think that the first of those (Rhapsody accessibility) would be very important for a Rhapsody support site.

#1 Rhapsody · #15 February 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM

I know. You can probably view the site using Rhapsody but not the forums. I would check but my Rhapsody system went down. I'm thinking of setting up another system, do you think it should be Intel or PPC? If Intel I need a list of network card drivers for Rhapsody DR2.

RacerX · #16 February 9th, 2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by #1 Rhapsody

I'm thinking of setting up another system, do you think it should be Intel or PPC?

Personally, I would think that going with a PowerPC system would be a good start. As a developer you would want a strong foundation system, and Rhapsody runs best on Apple hardware. I use Rhapsody on a Wallstreet and an 8600/300 for most of what I do, my ThinkPad is a backup system for the Wallstreet. Wallstreets are going for next to nothing these days, so that would be a good system... specially if you want to share Rhapsody with others in the real world.

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Does the developers versions of Rhapsody have programing documentation?

A couple PDF files, nothing extremely in depth. Mostly NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP examples that have been around for quite some time.

I would suggest the following:

Rhapsody Developer's Guide
by Jesse Feiler
WebObjects web application construction kit
by George Ruzek

Both are nice books, and really just about any WebObjects 4.x documentation would be helpful. Same with any early Mac OS X developer documentation or reference (from 10.2 and earlier) as most of the basic tools were the same as in Rhapsody. I would think that Cocoa Starting Point would be helpful too.

If you are using Rhapsody 5.3 or 5.5, the developer tools on the WebObjects 4.0.1 CD should be fine. If you are using 5.6, you may want to find WebObjects 4.5 as it has an updated version of the developer tools for that version (though the version of the 4.0.1 CD will still work fine for most things).

And remember, even though you can use either Objective C or Java in Rhapsody, Apple has discontinued future enhancements of Java in Mac OS X. So if you are wanting to move in that direction, Objective C would be a better choice.