OSX, or linux or BSD

[tuco]

Brand new to the unix world. Was considering getting yellow dog linux for my G3 Power Book (Bronze), also looking at netbsd. After reading a bit about OSX due out soon I have a few questions.

1. Will OSX allow me to learn unix, or would I be better off with YDL?

2. I would like to set up a server and host a home page and a mail server. Mainly just to learn about the process. Would OSX fit that need?

3. I am going to get OSX when it comes out so my main question is, is that going to fit my needs or should I get linux also?

4. I understand that freeBSD is a part of OSX, but is it actually usable? Can I use BSD programs, etc.

Thanks for your advice and help.

p.s. any newsgroups or mailing lists devoted to OSX?

[strobe]

Originally posted by tuco
1. Will OSX allow me to learn unix, or would I be better off with YDL?

Yes, you can learn UNIX in OS X and it\'s actually easier than learning it otherwise! You can use a browser without first learning how to launch it to read UNIX tutorials online, and you can use ManOpen to read UNIX man files which is a lot easier than using the man command.

2. I would like to set up a server and host a home page and a mail server. Mainly just to learn about the process. Would OSX fit that need?

Yes, it\'s trivial.

3. I am going to get OSX when it comes out so my main question is, is that going to fit my needs or should I get linux also?

Stick with OS X.

4. I understand that freeBSD is a part of OSX, but is it actually usable? Can I use BSD programs, etc.

Stick with OS X.

Thanks for your advice and help.

p.s. any newsgroups or mailing lists devoted to OSX?

Stick with http://www.macosx.com |-)

[vext]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tuco
[B]Brand new to the unix world. Was considering getting yellow dog linux for my G3 Power Book (Bronze), also looking at netbsd. After reading a bit about OSX due out soon I have a few questions.

1. Will OSX allow me to learn unix, or would I be better off with YDL?
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I suggest LinuxPPC 2000. I think it's Red Hat based.


2. I would like to set up a server and host a home page and a mail server. Mainly just to learn about the process. Would OSX fit that need?
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Either will work. They both run apache and a mail server.


3. I am going to get OSX when it comes out so my main question is, is that going to fit my needs or should I get linux also?
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Why not try both? It's fun


4. I understand that freeBSD is a part of OSX, but is it actually usable? Can I use BSD programs, etc.
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FreeBSD is a little harder than linux...

[parallax]

Brand new to the unix world. Was considering getting yellow dog linux for my G3 Power Book (Bronze), also looking at netbsd. After reading a bit about OSX due out soon I have a few questions.

1. Will OSX allow me to learn unix, or would I be better off with YDL?

You betcha. You'll find that the GUI of OS X ties into UNIX, so that you'll have a visual representation of what seems abstract. If you ever want the "feel" of a text-only operating system, log in as ">console" (no password) when the login screen pops up. Beware: Screen scrolling is somewhat slow. Just type "exit" to get back to the login screen.

2. I would like to set up a server and host a home page and a mail server. Mainly just to learn about the process. Would OSX fit that need?

You betcha. OS X comes with Apache pre-installed. You could always try to install the latest version for the fun of it. It also comes with Perl, which is an extremely handy scripting language for things like maintainence and CGI.

3. I am going to get OSX when it comes out so my main question is, is that going to fit my needs or should I get linux also?

Probably should fit your needs... The only thing you'd worry about is ports for Darwin. But the way it's looking, ports should be no problem to find. Already XFree86 (The thing UNIX programs use to draw graphics) has been ported successfully.

4. I understand that freeBSD is a part of OSX, but is it actually usable? Can I use BSD programs, etc.

Yes. Most UNIX software comes with source (some with no binaries at all), so that you just have to compile it (this is partly because so it'll work under mutations of UNIX).
Thanks for your advice and help.

p.s. any newsgroups or mailing lists devoted to OSX?

This one :-)

[Cobey4]

if you really want to learn a lot about Unix you should install Linux, it will force you to learn a lot about it. Also Linux is much more flexible and has a faster GUI than OSX. LInuxxPPC 2000 is good but Yellow Dog Linux's upcomming workstation (not the champion server) release sounds even better (but it isn't out yet)

[AdmiralAK]

If you want to try linux too there is also the option of SUSE linux which comes with several CDs worth of shareware and freeware for linux. THere is a PPC version of SUSE linux. I bought LinuxPPC, and I like it (although modem wise I have not gotten it to work) but I would try SUSE first if I had to do it again.
on the BSD front there is OpenBSD and NetBSD.

Admiral

[endian]

Debian is on PPC.. it's the only distro I'll use. If my OS is gonna be open it's gonna be OPEN, dammit!

http://www.debian.org

[simonsays]

Yeah debian is the best as far as I am concerned =] If I had to give you a piece of advice it would be apt-get into it =-]

http://www.debian.org/
http://www.debianplanet.org/
http://www.debianhelp.org/


have fun.... and dont be scared away by dselect! just muster your way thru it~!@@#!