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    jc658 is offline Registered User
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    Is Your Firmware Up to Date? And Other 10.2 Tips

    After upgrading to 10.2 I was having the most terrible problems with my computer. The UI would crash several times a day for no apparent reason. Crashes seemed to occur a lot when dragging windows so I suspected the graphics card. But I checked the RAM and the graphics card and both were fine. I tried a clean install and removing all 3rd party software but it still froze regularly. I waited patiently for 10.2.1 to arrive but after installing that the problems were still there.

    Finally I used FileMerge to compare the Apple System Profiler output for my computer and a similar G4 in the office that didn't seem to be having any problems. I immediately noticed that my "Boot ROM info" was very different from the other computer. This is the firmware which for some reason had never been updated. I think Apple warns you to update your computer's firmware before installing 10.0 but I had never had any problems with 10.0 or 10.1 so I figured I was updated. The various installers never actually check your firmware for you.

    Apple still hasn't (and maybe never will) release firmware updaters that run in OSX. I didn't even have OS9 installed on my computer and the installer wouldn't let me install it over my 10.2 installation. After a bunch of frustration I was able to scavenge a hard drive from a PC in the office and use it to install OS9. Once I updated the firmware using the installer on apple's website everything worked great.

    On another note, I use the jEdit text editor all day at work. jEdit is a MRJ app. I noticed that after upgrading to 10.2 UI speed slowed to a crawl any time anything transparent went over the jEdit window. I believe the performance difference between 10.1 and 10.2 was due to the changes apple made to accomodate quartz extreme. On my non-QE enabled graphics card, though, the changes made jEdit practically unusable.

    So I got my employer to break for a RAM upgrade (to 1GB) and a new Radeon 8500. The $300 upgrade has made my admittedly antique computer 50-100% faster under 10.2. With two monitors and decent UI responsiveness my computer has become a pleasure to use. The point is you don't need a new dual GHz machine to get decent performance out of OSX ... a little RAM and particularly a QE-enabled graphics card under 10.2 will go a long way.

    The old firmware:
    <pre>
    Hardware Overview:
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | |
    | Machine speed : 450 MHz |
    | Bus speed : 100 MHz |
    | Number of processors : 1 |
    | L2 cache size : 1MB |
    | Machine model : Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) (version = 2.8) |
    | Boot ROM info : 1.3f1 |
    | Customer serial number : XB9514GV-HP0-ffff |
    | Sales order number : M7825LL/B |
    | |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    </pre>

    and the new firmware:
    <pre>
    Hardware Overview:
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    | |
    | Machine speed : 450 MHz |
    | Bus speed : 100 MHz |
    | Number of processors : 1 |
    | L2 cache size : 1MB |
    | Machine model : Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) (version = 2.8) |
    | Boot ROM info : 4.2.8f1 |
    | Customer serial number : XB9514GV-HP0-ffff |
    | Sales order number : M7825LL/B |
    | |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    </pre>

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    The OS 9 Software update found the new firmware for me(a long time ago when it was released), and installed it for me.

    I'm surprised Apple hasn't built it into the OS X installer that the computer requires the latest firmware to install.
    MacBook Pro 2.16GHz Core2Duo 3GB RAM, G4 1.4GHz OSX Tiger 1.25GB RAM, Dual 2GHz G5 OSX Tiger 2GB RAM (freakin shweet)
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    or iclude the latest firmwares on the installer image...
    Sawtooth G4 @ 1.4GHz, Club3d Radeon 8500LE (full 8500 when flashed), Pioneer DVR-A05

 

 

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