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Old September 23rd, 2002, 10:27 PM
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Well we have two G4's at work. A 400 and 450 i believe. They are the standard Grey and White Towers. Nothing special. No upgrade cards or anything like that.

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Old September 24th, 2002, 08:23 AM
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when i put my cursor on top of some colors i can't see the shadow at all, but on top of other (lighter) colors, i can see it. maybe everyone has it, just not everyone sees it.
I thought about that too until I saw what the shadow looked like. I'm now sure that I don't have the cursor shadow. When I hold my mouse over a black background there is no shadow at all... just a hard line where my cursor ends
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I have a G4 450 DP with an AGP Rage 128 Pro 16MB and no QE and no mouse shadow. I was uder the impression that all AGP cards would use QE but I must have been mistaken because it is not enabled.
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It seems that the only system spec that determines whether you have the shadow or not seems to be vram. and 32meg seems to be the magic number
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I have a G4 450 DP with an AGP Rage 128 Pro 16MB and no QE and no mouse shadow. I was uder the impression that all AGP cards would use QE but I must have been mistaken because it is not enabled.
All NVidia cards work (all NVidia cards are AGP) as well as any AGP-based ATi Radeon cards.

So, in a nutshell, AGP NVidia and AGP Radeon cards are the only ones who can use Quartz Extreme...
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For sake of clarification, the mouse shadow is not:

- A Quartz Extreme feature,
- A G4 feature,
- A 32 MB VRAM feature.

I have a G4 with two displays, both are QE accelerated (I did the PCI QE hack for the secondary), both have more than 32 MB VRAM and neither monitor displays the mouse cursor shadow.

The shadow transparency is also not calculated through QE, the alpha channeling is built into the cursor bitmap. I'm pretty sure the mouse shadow is only visible on graphics cards that support mouse cursors larger than 16x16.
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Titanium PowerBook G4/500 (Rev. A). ATI AGP 4x, 8 MB VRAM.

6C35, 6C48: Quartz Extreme software enabled
6C115+: Quartz Extreme off

But whatever it is that turns the cursor shadow on or off in 10.2 and 10.2.1, why do you care about it? How much time do you spend on watching that feature? (Not watching the cursor, just watching the shadow or it not being there.)

Well, does your cursor have a shadow? Go on working or playing.

Doesn't your cursor have a shadow? Go on working or playing.

You won't be able to somehow activate it - and it's really not an important feature at all.
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Titanium PowerBook G4/500 (Rev. A). ATI AGP 4x, 8 MB VRAM.

6C35, 6C48: Quartz Extreme software enabled
6C115+: Quartz Extreme off

But whatever it is that turns the cursor shadow on or off in 10.2 and 10.2.1, why do you care about it? How much time do you spend on watching that feature? (Not watching the cursor, just watching the shadow or it not being there.)

Well, does your cursor have a shadow? Go on working or playing.

Doesn't your cursor have a shadow? Go on working or playing.

You won't be able to somehow activate it - and it's really not an important feature at all.
It's not the fact that it's there or not that bothers me. It's not knowing why it is or isn't there. You can't say that you've never been intregued by the unknown? Why did apple throw this feature in for specific hardware but didn't tell us why or what supports it?

without knowing what controls it how do you know for certian that we couldn't somehow enable/disable it?
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