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No good here - G4/400 (AGP)

Thought it might be the "permissions" thing that Roxio is famous for - but I installed as root and still no go...
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Old September 27th, 2002, 02:52 PM
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A good rule of thumb to abide by is to check the developer's site for a download link. Roxio's site still lists 5.1.4 as the latest updater, meaning that the 5.2 updater probably isn't ready to be released yet.

VersionTracker and MacUpdate scour FTP servers and the like for files that have been added or changed recently, and then they list them regardless as to whether they've been "officially" released or not by the developer. VersionTracker and MacUpdate are not... how shall I put this? They're not official software vendors... they don't have the knowledge or contacts or information or press releases to post a trustworthy download link all the time. Sure, 99% of the time the software they list is an official release, but they've done this with Toast updaters in the past -- it's not Roxio's fault... they didn't give you the link to download it, and it's not something that normal users would go in search of on an FTP site. It's VersionTracker's and MacUpdate's fault for listing the update prematurely.

Read macnn.com and you'll see that Roxio has said that using the 5.2 updater at this point in time is... well, the opposite of smart. It's still pre-release software and hasn't been officially released yet, so it's a use-at-your-own-risk kinda thing, and I don't think anyone should expect anything more than what they've got -- whether it's a working copy of Toast 5.2 or a copy of Toast 5.2 that just won't work anymore. You got what you deserved!
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well that's not so cool... yeah granted it does work for me, but that kind of annoys me that version tracker does that... i *thought* they could be trusted... poo
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Yes - that does piss me off too - I already avoid VT as much as possible since they changed and you have to jump through hoops to get stuff. Now I just knocked them down one more notch!
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...since they changed and you have to jump through hoops to get stuff...
Jump through hoops? All I've ever had to do is click on the download link
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me too... but hoop jumping does sound pretty fun right now...
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Solved.

'Just' delete all of Toast's prefs (two files) and Toast itself (the whole folder). Then reinstall Toast 5.0x (under 9) and immediately apply the 5.2 update (under X). Then start 5.2 and enter your serial number.

Everything works fine like that. I was one of the users with the crash-on-startup problem.

However, it seems that Roxio really didn't want you to have the updater just yet. So maybe we'll have to reinstall once the 'final' final version comes out?

We'll see...
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Yeah, I liked VersionTracker when you could actually download stuff from the main page by clicking on the "size" aspect of the listing. Now, you've got to be redirected to another page and then wait for the download to start. Hell, sometimes I'd download four or five updates at once, which required four or five clicks from the main page to start ALL the downloads... now I've gotta visit that damn "Your download will start momentarily..." page four or five times, wait each time, return to the main page, then do it all over again! Frustrating!
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