This OS is not ready...

[redlinzus]

I am wondering if there is going to be a backlash for this BETA OS. 1000's are paying 100 smackers for a Beta OS...

I at first supported Apple for shipping this thing come hell or high water, but now I think they should have done a second BETA...

There is so much potential and so many cool things about the OS I think it's really cool...and I am excited...

But it is months away from being usable...

Apple will get it right, and probably in a hurry, but I doubt the wisdom of releasing a buggy BETA as a final product....

comments anyone?

[doppelbock]

I think it was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

So many people, users, developers etc have been waiting so long for it, and with many software companies publicly saying they won't release software/drivers etc until the OS is released, it seems that Apple *had* to put it out.

Personally, I think they are handling it the right way - very low key, with the big splash to come with the summer MWNY update. Then we'll see some big name apps and lots of fixes/optimizations for OS X.

I don't think of any first release as a 1.0 - it's really like a .90 or something....which beats M$'s (sub)standards of what appear to be .75's at best.


I've installed on my iBook 300 (160mb ram) and my beige G3 (upgraded to 466mhz, 256mb ram). It's a bit sluggish on both, but rock solid stable. I'll take the stability for now and let them work on the speed......

[mrmac]

I never knew a .o version that was any good. Every .0 version of software and even an OS get's a .0.1 or .1 very soon (remember 7.0, remember 8.0, remember 9.0 and all those other applications).

[Solaris]

It works fine for me. And I give it a thrashing.

[theed]

I agree that this thing isn't quie ready for prime time, but it's the best OS I have, and I'd rather have it in its current form than just about anything else.

I too think Apple has done well. This is close enough to final form to be released so that people can begin to use it and Apps developers can be confident in the API's staying what they are.

I do certainly hope they continue to develop at the same fast pace that they were prior to release. I'm sure giving them feedback like they are. :-)

[AdmiralAK]

I expected OS X to ship in the end of August 2000, but it did not, the PB shipped in september though. I dont think that many people would really like to buy OS X Public Beta 2. If that were the case MacOS would be viewed not as a commercial OS, but as a Linux style OS when you work out things each quarter (or each half year) and you put it on "sale" on the web.

I think that apple needed to ship this but I am disappointed that they have overlooked the finer details. Yeah sure updates are gonna come for greek, DVD playback, CD-RW capacility, more languages, and bigger & better functionalities but they shoudl have tried to get a few things ready in the GM.

I like OS X and I will upgrade, eventually, but I need to know that my stuff will work so I am waiting for companies to release drivers and upgrades for their products to run on OS X. (my prime example being VPC)

Ultimatelly I think the decision to release it now was an appropriate one. I would have hated to see OS X go the way of copland because apple did not release it in time, and as is a widely known fact nothing is really complete. OS 9.1 isnt really complete, but ti works. Also this decision is a sound one because it provokes companies to go ahead and MAKE those drivers and MAKE those upgrades in order to propagate their business to the new OS.



Admiral
PS: Will upgrade in the end of august (if not sooner)

[VGZ]

Wait till you use 4L5. Its is much faster on my computer. No I'm not a developer and I didn't sign an NDA. If you want the update just wait or go to MacNN. Somone said it should be out tomorrow. Its getting better.

btw 4L5 is listed as 10.0.1 (4L5) under about this computer.

[monty]

> beta

Tell me about it. But beta is a bit harsh to the public beta. I _never_ had a kernel panic in the Public Beta. After using the final for about 2 hours i have had 2!!!

Here's what i did: connect to idisk, go to mac osx software, try to download screen saver, system locks up (all aplications display beach ball). after 5 minutes of nothing I started force quiting apps. When i got down to the Finder and the ball was still spining, i click on relaunch. Kernel Panic!! the message basically blams it on afpfs (file sharing). Protected memory doesn't help these problems. Please, Apple, clean up the kernel extensions!!!

peter