Very Disappointed with Firefox

[Amie]

So after hearing much praise about Firefox, I decided to download it as my secondary browser--for variety, when I get bored with Safari. Firefox lasted about 10 minutes on my computer before I uninstalled/trashed it. I was very disappointed in it--slow scrolling and not as fast downloading Web pages as Safari. Plus, it was causing all kinds of crazy log messages in Console, which Safari does not do.

So that was the end of that. Back to Safari for me...

[cfleck]

I agree. I think Firefox is crap on the mac by comparison to the alternatives. I don't have issue with page renderings and what not. It is more a matter of feel. I think FF "feels" terrible. I was initially attracted to the plugins/extensions, but found them to be somewhat overrated for my needs.

That said, I've been using the Camino nightlies for about a month now as my "main" browser. I use the CamiTools extensions (http://www.nada.de/mac/index_en.html) and they work flawlessly and give me a few nice additions that Safari had a rough time with (read: blocking flash ads).

In any event, my opinion on why there is such a hoopla over Firefox in these forums and the mac community in general is more a "rubbing off" of the hoopla that surrounds Firefox on the Windows and Linux platforms. IMO it doesn't come close to acting like a mac app *should*.

Oh and I'm curious about something. Why do you care about the Console output by a browser/How often do you watch it?

[Gig']

I agree with both of you, just made a small test with safari firefox camino and shiira loading the link provided by Bobw in this thread http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235864 which is http://www.applelinks.com/p5/index.p...s_x_browsers1/

and the winner is camino .... so there you go Amie an alternative to Safari you could look into

[nixgeek]

Definitely Camino is the way to go if you want something like FF but without it being FF.

[TommyWillB]

As a related point, did you see the news that IBM is donating code to Firefox?

[mambopanda]

I don't have any problems with Firefox at all. Perhaps it is not as "Mac-ish" as Safari, but the interface is better than Camino IMHO. The rendering is a bit slower than Safari, I agree, but not by much. Conversely, the rendering is much higher quality and more standards compliant than Safari. This is important to web developers like me, because we are sick of having to purposely write bad code to make pages render properly in safari or even worse IE. Firefox never claimed to be the fastest or most Mac-like browser. It's only claim is that it is reliable, cross-platform, and standards compliant. If you don't like it, and want to use Camino, that is perfectly fine with me since they use the same rendering engine. But for me Camino has a very "unfinished" look and feel, plus it crashed on me 3 times during my first week of using it, so I will stick with Firefox.

[TommyWillB]

If I could just wean my Mom of Internet Explorer, I'd be happy.

Like most Mac users she needs multiple browsers just to complete various banking and other day-to-day tasks. But when she's "play" surfing she still uses IE.

[MacIT]

Well, i use both Windows and Mac machines so just the fact that there is one browser you can use on any platform is a big plus.

However, that said I actually recently switched back to Safari on the Mac though after upgrading to Tiger. I am completely addicted to RSS feeds, and didn't want to install a seperate program to read them. At first i was a little frustrated at the way safari display's rss but now i prefer it (especially the # indicator that tells you how many new RSS's there are).

The other feature i liked in FF was the 'find as you type'. But since running across the acidsearch plug-in it seems that is a none issue.... except for Camino.... does it have this yet?

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