image
image

Go Back   macosx.com > Mac Help Forums > Mac OS X System & Mac Software

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old March 26th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Qfxz is on a distinguished road
Corrupted files?

This is how I see it (oh, this is an iMac G5, 1.8GHz, 17", 512 DDRAM):
Adobe Illustrator started to crash, eventually I would click the app icon and immediately get the failed to launch message. Then my Illustrator files began getting corrupted, 'Unknown format', 'PDF file not compatable', etc. And of course, the whole system started getting whacked. I reinstalled 10.4 and brought files in through target mode from my other Mac. I had to do a restore on the main hd. Now everything is very slow, tortouse slow, if it just does not lock up with the spiining beachball of... don't want to say that.

Any help? Words of wisdom? Advice?

I do think there were some music files I had downloaded which were corrupted. I had deleted all corrupted files i could find. Is there any freeware to detect corrupted files?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 26th, 2006, 03:03 PM
ElDiabloConCaca's Avatar
U.S.D.A. Prime
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 9,925
Thanks: 2
Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts
ElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura aboutElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura aboutElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura about
Did the system run O.K. right after you clean-installed, but before you brought over your old files?

If so, I would first assume that something that you brought over from the old system was causing the problems.

For a super-clean, healthy, speedy installation of Mac OS X, I always do this:

1) Fresh format the hard drive.
2) Install Mac OS X.
3) Run Software Update over and over until no more updates appear, restarting when prompted.
4) Repair permissions with disk utility.
5) Restart from the Mac OS X Install CD/DVD and use Disk Utility to repair the hard drive.
6) Re-install all non-Apple applications from their original CDs/DVDs, updating each application with the latest vendor update after installation, restarting when necessary/prompted.
7) Re-enter email account(s) information in Mail.app (or Entourage, whichever you prefer).
8) Copy over any old documents (Word files, MP3s, photos, etc.) from your backup that you need -- do not copy over any system files, such as preferences, settings, or plist files. If you want an application set up like it used to be, adjust the preferences fresh as necessary -- using old preference files or settings is a major cause of system problems.

That's about it... if you re-install due to a system slowdown or system problems, then you bring over configuration files from your old installation, then what good is reinstalling? You're putting potentially corrupted or problematic system files from an old, broken installation into a new, healthy installation -- turning the new installation into a broken installation!

If this clean-install procedure doesn't work, then I would next suspect some kind of hardware related problem -- have you added any RAM recently, or do you have any 3rd-party RAM installed in the machine?
__________________
Power Macintosh G4/500MHz "Yikes!" 10.4.11 Server • 1024MB • 3 x 120GB + 320GB • DVR-111D • 2 x Radeon 7000 PCI • 2 x 17" CRT
MacBook 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo - White 10.5.5 • 2048MB • 80GB • CD-RW/DVD-ROM
iPod Photo 60GB • iPod nano 1GB • AT&T DSL 6Mb/768k
http://www.jeffhoppe.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 28th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Qfxz is on a distinguished road
I had done what i thought was a clean reinstall, but I guess not. How do i determine what is corrupting the system? I know it will require loosing some data, hopefully the corrupted data. Is there anyway to check the files when bringing them in from my other system soo i don't have the same problem again? i had run a hardware test and everything checked out okay. I had to fire up Netscape as a browser since Safari (and just about everything else) hangs up. I am not panicking yet, I just have an online test for one of my classes, these are timed, and with the way the system is operating there will not be enough time to do it.
No RAM was added, I did install an external harddrive, a LaCie 250GB. Also, I have repaired the permissions and it seems that way too many things are on special permissions. Actually, it's amazing this message is going through.
Thanx for the advice.

john
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 28th, 2006, 02:18 PM
ElDiabloConCaca's Avatar
U.S.D.A. Prime
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 9,925
Thanks: 2
Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts
ElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura aboutElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura aboutElDiabloConCaca has a spectacular aura about
Documents (Word documents, MP3s, audio files, etc.) usually won't corrupt a system, even if they're corrupted... it's the system files you gotta worry about.

If you're bringing over old preferences, settings, plist files, Safari settings, Mail settings, etc., that could be what's corrupting your system -- I always recommend re-setting up applications' preferences rather than importing old settings/preferences.

"Special permissions" are nothing to worry about -- they're simply informing you that Mac OS X is using some non-standard permissions for certain files/folders, either for security reasons or otherwise. A simple search here will reveal a handful of threads on how these messages can and should be ignored.
__________________
Power Macintosh G4/500MHz "Yikes!" 10.4.11 Server • 1024MB • 3 x 120GB + 320GB • DVR-111D • 2 x Radeon 7000 PCI • 2 x 17" CRT
MacBook 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo - White 10.5.5 • 2048MB • 80GB • CD-RW/DVD-ROM
iPod Photo 60GB • iPod nano 1GB • AT&T DSL 6Mb/768k
http://www.jeffhoppe.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 28th, 2006, 03:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Qfxz is on a distinguished road
Thanx, I just posted a question on determining if a file is corrupt or not. I do nopt want to put these files on an external drive and then bring them back in and have it all start over.
Is there a way to be sure that none of the old preferrences and such are being brought in? I understand to re-set everything, to me that would be; reinstall all applications from their disk (or DMG?), do not bring in bookmarks, start all new mail settings (same name though, right?) OR basically install everything new. Erase and install button?

John
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FTP files corrupted when xfered over LAN J-Man Mac OS X Server 0 October 3rd, 2005 12:15 AM
Corrupted Spotlight skunkworker Mac OS X System & Mac Software 0 August 11th, 2005 11:30 PM
corrupted mp3's OraliusJohnosn Mac OS X System & Mac Software 6 September 5th, 2004 08:54 PM
G5 disk keeps getting corrupted cleaner416 Mac OS X System & Mac Software 8 July 22nd, 2004 12:06 PM
How can I install 10.2 over a corrupted 10.1.5 sabunab Mac OS X System & Mac Software 6 February 24th, 2003 02:48 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 PM.


Mac Support® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Copyright 2000-2008 DigitalCrowd, Inc.