Open app not visible in dock?

**edX** · January 4th, 2002, 08:39 PM

silly me, not understanding something because it is something you guys do differently than i do i guess. or else we just find different things annoying. i keep my dock on auto hide so the only time i ever see it is when i reach down to launch an app. ok it occassionally pops up when using a bottom scroll bar but i am getting much better at avoiding it. at any rate the in use icons don't bother me. i just wish apple made the thing two rows deep. if it didn't show up in front of my apps i would just leave it up. but i am not sure i see any advantage in that over the old method of putting aliases on desktop. i really miss my launcher. I have tried one of the replacements and not only does it suck, it is too expensive.

oh well.

**tazmandevil** · January 8th, 2002, 02:42 PM

say, Bubbajim, is it true, that the Printerdrivers from HP's officeJet for OS X 10.1 does not work directly over USB....... i should "need" a Printserver from HP???? are they crazy? ... und 9 it worked all fine!

and is it true, that you or this other guy are having a "Office G Communication Extension" that runs "natively" under OS 10 or is it too starting the "Classic", for working???? -> (that would be absolutely unuseable to me!)

is it?

**twister** · January 8th, 2002, 03:23 PM

i'm printing over a network. if your connected directly by usb i'd think it would be just fine. No extra stuff should be needed.

**tazmandevil** · January 8th, 2002, 03:44 PM

hey sorry, you think that, but the reality talks another language! IT DOES NOT WORK! *seufz* ;-(

by the way, the installer is starting "Classic" in Mac OS X, then it says: "The Office All-In-One communication extension" crashed in unknown reasons".... then (loud the manual) you should start the "HP Setup Assistent", but after clicking it happens : .... NOTHING.... then i tried to start the communication extension manually and ..... it was the first time, my 10.1 crashed in a such wax, that only a cold reboot let run it again!... (later in testing the driver it crashed another 5 times!)....

then a look into the print center offers a few of AI*** Ports (in the USB Port there he means still: HP office jet? not supported!....... selecting an AIo and it asks for a IP Number (funny, under system 9 the all-in-one driver works with my officejet! *ggg*)....

what should i say? ....

me as a home-user am not interested in buying a HP Printserver..... for 777.- Swiss Francs i can expect a working Driver, Support, Website and a kind of kind.... that everything is blowing in the mind!....

hp will die, if they make further so!

**bubbajim** · January 8th, 2002, 06:29 PM

The installer I used did not launch classic at anytime. The Officejet Communication Extension launches natively and does not launch classic. The only time classic launches for me when dealing with the Officejet is when I scan in a file. The scan program that is bundled with the officejet is still a classic app. That is why HP will not post these drivers on their site and require that you call them to get an updated cd.

If classic launches when your computer boots up, then I recommend removing the hp drivers out of OS 9's system folder. If you still have them in there then you may have two officjet communication extensions loading at the same time; one classic and one native.

I did have some trouble with the installation process. I never get to complete the HP Director Assistant program. It never finds the printer in the end, but I can print and scan without any issues at all. The assistant does show both USB and TCP/IP in the settings so I would not see any reason why the Officejet would not directly connect using USB.

I have 6 computers hooked up to it, so a print server is neccesary, but at one time I did have it connected via USB in classic without any trouble.

If you run into any further trouble I would remove both native drivers and classic drivers and restart the processs cleanly by installing only the native drivers.

**.dev.lqd** · January 8th, 2002, 06:49 PM

A -LOT- of applications may have trouble if they're being run on an UFS partition...

try running it off of another disk, if you have one.

**twister** · January 8th, 2002, 09:54 PM

I installed everything in X first. Without Classic running. I set it all up and made sure it was working before starting classic. Also i emailed HP and called them. And they were more than happy to help me out.

Twister

**tazmandevil** · January 9th, 2002, 02:00 PM

Well, at first
@bubbajam:
• i have not installed the driver for OS 9 but for X.
• i know, that a driver was running in OS 9, but he does not work in X.
• The HP Setup Assistent is never running in my case, so i'm not able to look, what he says/means.
• sure are the USB and TCP/IP Ports available in the "Print Center", but instead a driver is there a "?" and: "no driver available"
-> therefore; the HP Driver don't let choose a "Printer" over the OS X system own USB-Bus, he creates 2 own Ports: "AIO Printer" and "AIO Fax", where he looks for a TCP/IP-Number. (what has that to do with USB?)
• i don't need the scan software, i need at first the printer drivers!

@ dev.lqd.:
• I also don't use UFS, i use HFS+.

Now a question @ you, bubbajam:
• wear your "HP all-in-one Communication extension" a OS-X icon or a (pixeld) Classic-Icon? ;-)... in my case, he has "NO" errors because of more than one extension installed, at all he installs a own extension on the OS X volume and starts it with the "Start-objects" in the System-Preferences!

In a message from HP i read by my self, that they would expect troubles with some other "Startup Objects", but i can ensure you, i have no other Objects running!