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    Backup software?

    Hello wonderful people,

    Quick question: what are my options to backup data from my mac? Apparently, I can get a .Mac account and use the Backup application. Is it any good?

    If I decide not to use .Mac, what options do I have? Any good software that allows me to backup on an external drive, or onto a remote site using FTP or maybe rsync?

    Bye!

    Merc.

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    This is an area that is sort of like asking "who has the prettiest girlfriend." There are a lot of choices and a lot of varying opinions. I know of about 30 different backup programs for OS X (I can give you a list, if you like), and there are a bunch of different philosophies about what is the best backup plan.

    You might find this e-book very helpful to explain this very complex area:

    Take Control of Mac OS X Backups
    $15; free sample available
    186 pages
    http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backup-macosx?pt=TB-BOX

    OS X 10.5 includes Time Machine:
    http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/timemachine.html

    These two cloning programs are both very popular for creating a bootable clone backup:

    Carbon Copy Cloner (donation requested)
    http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

    SuperDuper ($28 to unlock all features)
    http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDup...scription.html

    A lot depends on how much data you have to backup, how important is your data (i.e. is your data part of a business), how much time are you willing to invest in backing up your data regularly, what is your budget, etc.
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    Hi,

    Hey, having that list would be _tops_... any chance of throwing it this way?
    Also, I am after a solution to back up your data, over the net and over an external hard drive. I heard that Time Machine allows you to backup your data on a disk, although I haven't tested it yet.

    I mean, I can setup an rsync batch script in minutes. But, I am after a GUI solution for users who are allergic to the command line Also, a free software / open source solution would be fantastic.

    Any ideas?

    Merc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercmobily View Post
    Hi,

    Hey, having that list would be _tops_... any chance of throwing it this way?
    Sure. No problem. Some of these links may be out of date; I haven't checked them in a while.

    Before you go for any of these, you may want to have a look at this somewhat dated, but still mostly relevant article:
    http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/...tware-harmful/
    (Carbon Copy Cloner is now reputed to backup all metadata, just like SuperDuper!.)


    Dobry Backuper $29.95
    http://www.dobrysoft.com/products/backuper/

    rSyncX (free and open source)
    http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16814
    http://archive.macenterprise.org/ind...d=49&Itemid=42

    Galaxy Backup
    http://www.commvault.com/products-backup-recovery.html

    Retrospect (There are several versions with different capabilities and pricing, including Express $49, and Desktop $129.)
    http://www.emcinsignia.com/products/...e/retroformac/
    http://www.emcinsignia.com/products/.../retroexpress/

    Data Backup $59
    http://www.prosoftengineering.com/pr...ata_backup.php

    Deja Vu $25 (comes highly recommended by users I've spoken with)
    http://propagandaprod.com/dejavu.html

    Intego's Personal Back-Up $70
    http://www.intego.com/personalbackup/

    BounceBack Pro $49/$39 download only
    http://www.cmsproducts.com/product_b...k_software.htm

    Carbon Copy Cloner (donation requested)
    http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
    CCC is a cloning, and synchronization, utility using a GUI front-end that uses Ditto and Psync to build bootable clones of Mac OS X installations.
    See: http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?t=2057
    for info about getting the latest version of psync to use with CCC to do syncronizations.

    iMsafe $15
    http://homepage.mac.com/sweetcocoa/

    Mozy 2GB free/unlimited $5/month
    online backup service
    http://mozy.com

    iBackup free
    http://www.grapefruit.ch/iBackup/


    SuperDuper $28
    http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDup...scription.html
    SuperDuper has the rare ability to preserve metadata. See:
    http://blog.plasticsfuture.org/2006/...tware-harmful/

    Chronosync, $20:
    http://www.econtechnologies.com/site..._overview.html

    Synchronize! Pro X $100
    http://www.qdea.com/

    Synk $20 personal/$40 commercial
    http://www.decimus.net/synk/

    SyncIt $40
    http://www.miensoftware.com/syncit.html

    Tri-BACKUP $49
    http://www.tri-edre.com/

    NetVault
    http://www.bakbone.com/products/netvault_mac/

    LaCie SilverKeeper (FREE!)
    http://www.silverkeeper.com/

    Psync (Free and open source)
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/psyncx

    SwitchBack ($30 and up)
    http://www.glendower.co.nz/switchback.html

    Folders Synchronizer X $40
    http://www.softobe.com

    HELIOS has released an HFS-aware version of gnutar. (Command-line utility.)
    http://www.helios.de/news/news03/N_06_03.html

    CopyCatX $60
    http://www.subrosasoft.com/OSXSoftwa...9703c0fe01b592

    BackityMac $10
    is a backup and restore utility that comes with presets for backing up your entire home folder, your home Documents folder, iPhoto and iTunes libraries, bookmarks, iWeb site files, iCal calendars, keychains, and more, with optional encryption, scheduling, and CD/DVD burning.
    http://www.whimsplucky.com/Whimsplucky/Software.html

    MimMac $10
    http://www.ascendantsoft.com/

    DV Backup $45
    is a shareware application for MacOS X 10.2 which lets you backup computer files to a domestic DV or Digital8 camcorder via a FireWire connection. You can backup about 10-15 GB on each tape.
    http://www.coolatoola.com/

    BRU $500 (I've heard a lot of good things about this product!)
    BRU for Mac OS X is a native OS X backup solution designed primarily to support standalone Xserve, G5 and G4 systems. In networked system topologies, up to 5* systems can be AFP-mounted and reliably backed-up to the system on which BRU for Mac OS X is installed.
    http://www.tolisgroup.com/home.html

    Backup Simplicity $20 first year; $15/year thereafter.
    http://www.qdea.com/pages/pages-bs/bs1.html

    BackUp Application and ScreenSaver by LARA-A FREE
    http://users.pandora.be/lara-a/softw...kup/index.html

    BackityMac 1.3.7: $10 one-click backup, restore and burning
    http://www.whimsplucky.com/whimspluc...99A31046F.html

    BounceBack Professional $99
    http://www.cmsproducts.com/products/...k/default.html

    Springy $18
    http://www.springyarchiver.com/index.php

    SyncUpX $15
    http://freeridecoding.net/FRC/PROJECTS/02/
    is a synchronization utility that provides a graphical interface for the rsyncx command-line tool. Backups can be saved to a second hard drive or external drive (including an iPod), and each backup stores its own settings, which can be restored just by selecting the backup folder. The major change since Version 1.0 is the ability to archive files removed during a backup. SyncUpX is $15 for Mac OS X.
    Spotlight-integrated, can schedule backups using iCal (syncOnStart, autoQuit).

    BasicBackup FREE
    http://www.hillmanminx.net/basicbackup/index.html

    I've left out several enterprise-class backup solutions, and a couple that are simple perl scripts.
    Last edited by Randy Singer; May 30th, 2009 at 11:36 PM.
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    Much more information on backing up can be found at:

    http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
    and
    http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/backuprecovery.html
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    Hi,

    What a list! Thank you!
    As far as backing up on hard drives, the best ones seem to be Carbon Copy and SilverKeeper. Any specific comments? I think CC allows you to backup onto a remote drive, as long as it's a mac. Has anybody here tried it?

    And... I couldn't find anything decently updated that would backup onto the network using rSync. Is there really no easy guy to rsync for OS X? It would just be so awesome...

    Bye,

    Merc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercmobily View Post
    What a list! Thank you!
    My pleasure!

    Quote Originally Posted by mercmobily View Post
    As far as backing up on hard drives, the best ones seem to be Carbon Copy and SilverKeeper. Any specific comments?
    SilverKeeper is free, but like a lot of free things, free isn't necessarily the best deal. I wouldn't use SilverKeeper. You may want to google around for users' experiences with it.

    Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper! are very similar cloning tools that can make bootable backups, and both are wildly popular.

    A number of users like to keep *both* a bootable clone backup, and an archival backup. TimeMachine is very popular for creating archival backups, both because it is a good program, and because it comes with OS X.

    Quote Originally Posted by mercmobily View Post
    And... I couldn't find anything decently updated that would backup onto the network using rSync. Is there really no easy guy to rsync for OS X? It would just be so awesome...
    High-end features like backing up to multiple cartridges of removable media, backing up over a network, etc. are rarely supported in backup programs for ordinary users. The traditional choice for this is Retrospect.
    http://www.retrospect.com/products/h...e/retroformac/
    I've heard from folks who love Retrospect, and from folks who hate it (and/or can't figure out how to use it.) I've heard from way more of the latter. Unfortunately things have gotten worse since Retrospect was sold by Insignia to EMC2. There have been claims that EMC2 doesn't care about the product.

    One product that has these high-end features at a reasonable price, and which isn't terribly hard to use is:

    Intego's Personal Backup ($70)
    http://www.intego.com/personalbackup/
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    Hi,

    This is one of the most accurate pieces of advice I've ever received. Thank you so much...
    I don't suppose you'd like to write some short articles for Free Software Magazine? (http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com)

    If so, contact me on "tonymobily" $#$sadff##@$sdf$#$sd followed by "gmail.com"

    Thank you

    Bye,

    Merc.

 

 
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