Longhorn won't see the light of day until 2006.

senne · #1 October 13th, 2003, 03:30 PM

The new target for Longhorn is 2006....

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haha!

hulkaros · #2 October 13th, 2003, 05:43 PM

UNIX X11 · #3 October 13th, 2003, 06:07 PM

Harvestr · #4 October 14th, 2003, 01:14 AM

Funny how the article mentions MS push to convince users to move to WinXP. LOL, how has XP been out now? 3 years maybe? I don't see Apple having trouble with getting users to OSX. They did when it first came out, sure. Just shows that Win users can NEVER trust MS. Us Mac users just have the logical lul period then things get back into a smooth grove before you know it. By the time MS has the XP user base it longs for we will all be on PowerMac G6's running OS 11.

uoba · #5 October 14th, 2003, 04:12 AM

Wish this was true, but their are a huge portion of Mac users who will take a long time to migrate to OSX. Namely, the print industry, and a lot of the graphics industry.

I don't think it's just about people not trusting MS, it's the fact that although better, XP essentially is not far removed in appeal to 95! The massive cost of a MS upgrade doesn't help either (come on, why is the Home edition so much!?)

Anyway, as you say Harvestr, we'll all be riding on OS10.999 or 11 (will Apple ever get past the number 10!?)

voice- · #6 October 14th, 2003, 09:01 AM

Harvestr: Like uoba said, there are a lot of Mac users who still haven't switched, like the print industry and in turn the graphics industry. Don't know what the problem is now, as Quark XPress is on OS X, but these things take time.

Also you mention trust. That's not the issue. The issues are price, support and ease of upgrade. OS X has the ease of upgrade in that it preserves settings and accounts, it has support in that Apple chooses not to support anything below current version number, thereby forcing users to upgrade. MS is better in this aspect, supporting previous versions as well.
You mention trust, too. Apple doesn't have my trust. Look at the latest example with the 10.2.8 upgrade (first try). Users lost network connection and stuff...does this create trust? Personally I wait to see if others have problems, if no complaints then I upgrade.

To sum up, I think one important reason XP is selling so badly is because people don't need to upgrade.

MisterMe · #7 October 14th, 2003, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by uoba
Wish this was true, but their are a huge portion of Mac users who will take a long time to migrate to OSX. Namely, the print industry, and a lot of the graphics industry.

I don't think it's just about people not trusting MS, it's the fact that although better, XP essentially is not far removed in appeal to 95! The massive cost of a MS upgrade doesn't help either (come on, why is the Home edition so much!?)

Anyway, as you say Harvestr, we'll all be riding on OS10.999 or 11 (will Apple ever get past the number 10!?)

The print industry's slowness in upgrading to MacOS X has little to do with trust and nearly everything to do with the fact that mission critical hardware and software may not be supported under the new OS. I'm not in the print industry, but I have similar considerations. With the release of the G5, however, I made the plunge. The situation on the other side is quite different. There are a lot of people over there who are paid lots of money to make that stuff work. Those highly paid IT people don't trust M$. It is standard practice over there to be at least one generation and maybe two generations behind M$'s latest release. The problem has become serious enought that M$ went out and bought Connectix's emulation products. M$ hopes that it can sell Virtual Server as a way to get its customers to buy its new operating systems.

bobw · #8 October 14th, 2003, 10:31 AM

Not Apple News or Rumors. Moving to Cafe.