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Old June 24th, 2001, 10:31 PM
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Need a window manager

I've got XFree86 up and running, but the included TWM window manager is crappy, to say the least. Has anyone compiled a better alternative? KDE or Gnome would be great, but I'm having problems getting KDE going.
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i prefer enlightment, i think u can find it at www.freshmeat.net
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What about...

Has anyone tried afterstep/AnotherLevel? I use them on intel redhat and I love them.

I tried the steps from trickX.com (I think that was the site). But they didn't work. I'm not at my os X box at the moment (at bald head island, beach.... hehe...). But I believe there was some problem with checking if gcc worked (I thought it worked fine when I compiled ssh for os 10.0.0 oh well...)

Thanks for your help people!
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Old June 26th, 2001, 01:09 PM
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definatly check out enlightenment! You can see tons of screenshots at e.themes.org.

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Old June 26th, 2001, 03:24 PM
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I'll have to see if I can get Enlightenment to compile sometime. It's no KDE, but it will do. ;-)
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wmaker is far more practical, especially with gparker's rootless patch for XDarwin 0.5

wmaker has an option where a click will focus a window and be eaten. This is the same behavior as OS X and helps a lot.
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What do you mean a window gets eaten? Are you referring to focus? Enlightenment allows you to change focus anyway you want including, just moving the mouse over the window. But then again, you would have to actually pay attention to what you are doing, which strobe obviously does no like to do.

KDE and GNOME are Desktop Environments. Enlightenment, WindowMaker, BlackBox, Sawmill, etc are all window managers. You can run pretty much all Gnome/KDE applications from within Enlightenment. Enlightenment allows you to customize EVERY part of the interface, whereas KDE (using KWM) is not very customizable. The latest version of Enlightenment available is 0.16.5, they are working on 0.17 which is pretty much a complete rewrite that will take the place of the Desktop Environments. I cannot wait to see how it turns out.

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The click event gets eaten (if you call them events in X11).

There are various options. One is click to focus, another is click to focus and the click doesn't get eaten (it clicks whatever is in the window) another is click to focus where the click gets eaten. The former behavior was like OSXPB, the latter is like the release version.

I've used several and wmaker is definitely the least confusing in OS X. In rootless mode (gparker's patch) the dock also works well. wmaker dock on the left, Apple dock on the right.

Enlightenment is just tries to eat more CPU than Quartz.
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