tiger - finder

[ex2bot]

At the risk of being boo'd off the thread, I don't have any problem with Finder's file browsing. I use list mode almost exclusively (sometimes icon mode). I never got used to column mode even though I've been using Mac OS's since OS 9.

10.3 Finder is much more comfortable than 10.0's because of the sidebar, the improved file dialogs, the improved performance, and the (limited) multitasking.

Network connections still stink but not as bad. Have you forgotten the frequent 30-second spinning beachball of death of 10.1, or the forever spinning beachball of death for that matter?

Doug

[texanpenguin]

I actually really like the Panther Finder.

I always have. I liked the spatial Finder too, don't get me wrong; but things are just so much quicker in a file-browsing set-up like the current Finder. While in the confines of a single window, you can (supposing you have your Sidebar set up similarly to mine) open the freshly mounted disk image that your Application download just arrived in, drag the application file to the appropriate place in your Applications folder (for instance, I have a Games subdirectory for my puzzle games etc.), eject the disk image, and delete the downloaded .dmg file. That's versatility.

I think people need to concede (finally) that whereas it's very useful from an ergonomics point of view for a User Interface to be as much like real life as possible, the true power of a computer is the advantage of not NEEDING to conform to what is possible in reality; to do things a BETTER way. It's still ridiculous for instance how many audio mixing applications are modelled after a mixing table; right down to the woodgrain. Is the grain going to make the application more usable? I highly doubt it'll do anything but increase the memory footprint.

I found it a real problem in Classic Mac OS; application programmers would make their windows all over the place as far as colour, images, typography, controls; it was almost like Windows software sometimes.

OS X really encourages consistency; most application developers (with the notable exception of Microsoft with their abominable Windows Media Player and MSN Messenger ports) develop software that all fits together and looks like it belongs on my PowerBook.



I hope they don't change much in Tiger's Finder. Not much at all.

[fryke]

I agree almost completely with you. I _love_ the file-browser mode with column view. However: The spatial mode (non-brushed metal) should work as expected, too. Windows should _never_ lose their view. Actually, I think, you shouldn't even be able to set a window to open in browser mode - the windows should _always_ save their spatial-mode instead. However: Apple never clearly indicated that there even _was_ a browser and a spatial mode, hence the current 'misbehaviour' from a spatial user's viewpoint.

I hope they'll manage to clear things up in a future version of the Finder, but I think Tiger won't be it, either...

[fisious]

Saw this in the Google image search.

Don't know if it's relate to new Finder features or new Dock features.

I'm interested to know that the Finder dock is saying and what the 11% is referring to!!!

--> http://homepage.mac.com/woodhams/images/tiger.jpg

[diablojota]

The 11% looks like how much of a file has been downloaded.

[texanpenguin]

I don't think that's going to be Tiger; I smell a Photoshopping. It also has a Finder window with song information (with ID3 tag reading). It's kinda reeking of XP, actually, with balloon help (I know, I know, it's originally a Mac thing).


On the other topic though,
I think it would be nice to be able to set on a checkbox in Finder preferences to be ALWAYS or NEVER spatial finder. I hate when disk images are saved as spatial and open as spatial on my computer.

I know it's a very Windows way of doing things, but it's also a sensible solution to the two schools of thought.

[fryke]

Well, the _right_ way to do it in my opinion, would still be to have a completely SPATIAL Finder plus either a completely separate filebrowser (please no!) or a clearly devoted file browser function, possibly integrated with Spotlight (because both browsing mode and Spotlight mode in the Finder don't belong to 'spatial' mode).

If I think about how we would integrate a browsing mode and a Spotlight mode in OS 9's Finder (which was completely spatial, wonderful to use...): You'd probably have to have a separate application for each in order _not_ to destroy the spatial Finder. And I don't really like the idea of an "Explorer" on the Mac. :/

[Lt Major Burns]

for the love of god what is wrong with brushed steel? it brings everything together - it makes it so much more easy on the eye. it looks like a window. defines the line.

sometimes (only sometimes, don't get me wrong) windows explorer does a lot of things well. for example:
>you open up my computer
>in front of you are all the drives your computer has. open one (C
>here are all the folders at the top, and all the other files at the bottom, with info at the right. (windows list view has always been slightly more robust than finders), and a list of very useful folder-sensitive actions to the left. at the top is a set of very well thought out buttons ("up" is very good. more useful than "back" and even better when used with "back". folder trees are still respected, and shown.

and all folders are like this, and have a distinct home on the drive, relative to the rest of the disk, none of this drives mounted on the desktop. (i'm going to cause arguments possibly, don't get me wrong macOS is a billion times better overall than windows)

finder, at the end of the day, looks like 20 years of evolution. it's evolved with its features added *on* not *into*.

would it be so henous to use some ideas of windows, and do it better than both? in the end they stole off apple, so it would only be payment. finder, i feel, is the only amatuerish-looking/feeling thing about macOS. it needs some solid, well thought-out revision.