10.1.1 caused me thirteen hours of severe frustration

PD · #1 November 15th, 2001, 05:12 AM

I'm disappointed. I was enjoying osx 10.1 tremendously until I tried updating it yesterday to 10.1.1. the install went well, no problems at all. Since they I've spent about 13 hours trying to get it to work. What's the problem? Well, all my old third party applications failed to launch. They either froze the whole system or just kept on launching forever without finishing. When I rebooted I was unable to select 0s 9.2 as I have been able to do before. When I tried to check whether the software update panel had anything else to download, it froze too.I must have rebooted 30 times. I reinstalled the 10.1 update on top of all this but that didn't change anything.

Basically, my system became useless. Now, I don't use a lot of apps, mainly basic stuff, so I can say I have a fairly 'typical' setup for the average user. Nothing extraordinary at all. What I'm trying to say is that if I were the average user with little experiences with Operating systems in general, I would freak out totally. It's unacceptable that Apple releases an update that has the POTENTIAL of causing this kind of trouble with a basic system. I don't know what went wrong with my system but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one around.

Anyway, after working, and then not working and then working again, things are now working. But now I don't trust the OS anymore. I should never have tried this. Damn. I'm travelling and can't reformat since I haven't been able to backup for a few weeks....

Just venting.

Thanks

PD

tismey · #2 November 15th, 2001, 05:39 AM

I had no problems at all with 10.1.1, but it seems that there are plenty of people here and elsewhere that did. Can we see if we can find some form of common denominator amongst the systems that have had the problems and those that haven't? Then maybe, rather than just bitching, we can work out WHAT it is.

I'll start:

I have a Powerbook G4 500. When 10.1 came out I did re-initialise and complete reinstall of both 10.1 and 9.2.1, which are both on the same partition.
I use Tinkertool, Transparentdock and Windowshade.
I only have one user set up on my machine (I know, I know...)

PD - what's your set-up? did you upgrade to 10.1, or do a full install? do you have partitions etc?

Come on guys, let's see if we can't get to the bottom of this!!!

PD · #3 November 15th, 2001, 05:48 AM

For the record, I'm not bitching. I'm making a point that for the average user ANY problem is huge and shouldn't occur when following Apple's advice and recommendation. Having said that, I agree that we should try to get to the bottom of this. Here's my setup:

I have a Powerbook G4 400/384mb. I too did a low level format and reinstallation of both 9.2.1 and 10.1 when the 10.1 came out. I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.1. Both on the same partition. Not other partitions . I use tinkertool and basic office and graphics productivitiy sofware. Only one user on my machine too.

tismey · #4 November 15th, 2001, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by PD
I too did a low level format and reinstallation of both 9.2.1 and 10.1 when the 10.1 came out. I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.1.

So you reinitialised, then installed 10.0.4, then did the 10.1 update? If so, that would seem to be the main difference between our two systems...

sfish · #5 November 15th, 2001, 08:58 AM

The 10.1.1 upgrade completely HOSED my system! From 10.1, I opened the Software Update panel, clicked Update Now and let it do it's work. Everything went smoothly. Reboot. Black Screen of Death! Reboot. BSoD. Shut down completely. Wait. Reboot. BSoD.

I spent a good portion of yesterday reinstalling 10.0 -> 10.1 so I could back up my personal files (thank gahd it didn't take down the drive completely), then wiping the partition and reinstalling 10.0 -> 10.1. What a major pain in the ass that ONLY would have been worse had I lost data.

Never again. I've been burned by Apple's "updates" in the past (can you say blocking G4 upgrades with their FlashROM upgrade of my Blue G3), but this is the last time. Unless it's sorely needed, and I've backed up everything of importance, Apple's updates are staying on their servers as far as I'm concerned.

tismey · #6 November 15th, 2001, 10:30 AM

So your 10.1 was from the 10->10.1 update CD?
I know it's hardly a representative sample, but are we spotting a pattern?

sfish · #7 November 15th, 2001, 10:39 AM

Why, yes I did use the 10.1 upgrade CD.

twister · #8 November 15th, 2001, 10:40 AM

i installed 10.1.1 on my machine and its is aweful. Its slower than 10.1. And Word keeps crashing. Its really pissing me off and i'm thinking of going back to 10.1.

I installed 10.0 then used the update CD to 10.1 (when 10.1 came out) then used the software update pannel to update to 10.1.1.

So why is this update causing some great responses and some horrific responces? I just feel like when i upgraded i took a step backwords on performance.

Twister