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Old October 22nd, 2002, 03:01 PM
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Yeah, but did they ever put those codenames on the box? Or mention them anywhere in the software? And now that Apple has done it, they decide that it's cool, so they do it too.
Uhm, for one, there is no box. These are leaked pictures from a lab. Two, Yes, before XP was XP, the OS had Whistler written all over it. I don't know about 200, 98 or 95 because I never had the pre-releases of those. I assume they likely did as well though.

So no, they didnt do it because of Apple, they did it because typically standard. Even Office XP has a codename.
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Old October 22nd, 2002, 04:03 PM
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Uhm, for one, there is no box. These are leaked pictures from a lab. Two, Yes, before XP was XP, the OS had Whistler written all over it. I don't know about 200, 98 or 95 because I never had the pre-releases of those. I assume they likely did as well though.
Win2k was actually called NT 5. I have a beta copy of it from when I worked at NEC. Funy that I said back when 98 was coming out that it should have been called 2000 so MS didn't have to worry so much about meeting the deadline of the year name. Look what happened with 95. They almost didn't make it.
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Yes, whistler had the name all over the OS, Early versions of 95 and 98 had the codename and build number displayed on the desktop... not sure about inbetween.

Really, who cares if it does or not? The OS runs exactly the same either way. it's a MS OS that doesn't look too bad (if you ignore how clunky and unorganized the taskbar appears) Other than the taskbar it doesn't look bad, although it's still nowhere near running on my machine of choice.

I think MS tries to please too many people and mistakenly lets the user create a horrible looking cluster of effects. Look at some of the pics in the previous link. The new taskbar along with the old is just downright wrong! Way too much screen clutter and too much screen realestate taken up to be useful.
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Yeah it's taking too much space, like the OSX!


Btw, the sidebar and taskbar in longhorn is totally customizable, you can auto-hide it, you can make the taskbar integrate in the sidebar, whatever you want.

So MS pleasing everyone is a good thing, everyone can be happy with their own customized desktop.

Unlike some other OS'es

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Old October 22nd, 2002, 05:13 PM
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meh, doesnt look any better than XP, and unless it has a lot of useful features it wont be any better (ie any feature apple comes up with in the next 12 months that M$ copy).

and the bluejeans.jpg pic is from FHM a few months back, the woman is a page 3 model called ebony, and remebering this makes me feel rather sad.
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Hmmm... i look forward to the OS, its always nice to try something new!

I REALLY hope M$ Clear up their icons though! Moving onto the Longhorn enhancements, the icons look Out of place, i'd prefer a less cartoony like feel, more like X.

The Multi Desktop thing looks pretty cool, similar to the Powertoys i guess, but it can be handy, nice to see it actually implemented, and usable 'out of the box'.

At The moment though, its SOOO early to judge any of this, its probable many features will Drop/alter and such as you're all aware. The Shots Remind me of Builds like 2250, where 2000 and Whistler Transitions made it seem like 'alternations' didn't fit, because it wasn't systemwide. I guess what i mean, is that underlyingly, it looks like Something Funky, Mixed with some crappier parts of XP! lol

nice to see the 'Green Eye' isn't around this time !

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Yeah it's taking too much space, like the OSX!


Btw, the sidebar and taskbar in longhorn is totally customizable, you can auto-hide it, you can make the taskbar integrate in the sidebar, whatever you want.

So MS pleasing everyone is a good thing, everyone can be happy with their own customized desktop.

Unlike some other OS'es

OS X taking too much space? you mean the menu bar?

BTW... the dock is customizable and auto hiding as well.

MS pleasing everyone is a good thing if you know how to change it. Many of these cutomization options are hidden where many people don't know where to look for them. Most MS users don't even know anything about customizing the interface. I do Tech support for a large ISP and work in IT for a bank supporting PC's. Most users freak out when the task bar moves to one side of the screen. Obviously they don't know where to find customizable options. The default display will have to be simplified greatly to become a workable interface for less intutative users.
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You can argue the same point with OSX, but that does not discredit MS for attempting to make Desktop customizable. If people can't do even the simplest things on computers, then this is not MS fault, but the user which hasn't read any documentary or is new to a computer.

Also, you can't say these features are hidden, because we really don't know how these features will work and what new features will be added. MS tried to make XP as easy to use as possible, and in that war against OSX, MS won. So I can assume easily that Longhorn will be even easier to use.

Did you see MSN 8 or Media Center(Freestyle)? A monkey can use them with no problem.
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