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Old February 5th, 2002, 10:10 AM
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sign me up for the first mind-jack. Ever since my first Gibson book, I wanted one.

I see voice control as a supplement to other forms of input. The gesture recognition of that "Stealth" keyboard that just went on sale is a nice touch. sorry don't have the link but it's only available to those who signed up for pre order AND it's like $400!

In the Army we had several systems that scanned our eye movements for computer control/weapons selection/ etc... I always thought the sight linked heli mounted gatling gun was cool and put the fear of the gods into anyone you looked at... simple eyeglass type devices could accomplish this.

That, in combo with the previously mentioned items and a few others, would be/ is a nice component to an overall re-vamping of the computer interface as most consumers currently see it. I see no reason to rely on one form of interface. As you said, different situations/environments call for diffent input methods.
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Old February 6th, 2002, 10:38 PM
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I really think that voice recognition will not work for constant use. I wouldn't want to have to talk to do everything i do on my computer... you would run out of breath! I think that the keyboard (maybe not in its current form) is the most efficient way to input information. Handwritting recognition wouldn't be that great either because it is just as tiering and annoying as writing.

The eye thing wouldn't work either, because what if you look somewhere else, or you look at something else while trying to do another thing.

Good luck with mind control. If we can't even figure out the brain how can we use it to control things.
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Old February 7th, 2002, 05:19 PM
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missing the point

Oh come on...I'm a luddite because I don't want a speech-controlled computer? OK...I had to bite:

First, I notice you ignored my comments about noise. I STILL don't want to be sitting in an office full of people talking to their computers. How obnoxious. I also don't want to have to talk to my computer while I am on the phone (how will it differentiate from me talking to it vs. me talking to someone else?), or while I am trying to watch a TV show (again, it must differentiate my voice from others, PLUS I'll have trouble hearing over my own voice), or while I'm listening to music at 100 watts (I don't see how that would work at all).

That's a good thing about hand-based input: it doesn't interfere with other communications mechanisms.

Second, about the throat pain thing. I use my computer about 10 hours a day, and I've not once had a problem with repetitive stress disorder. I read a pamphlet once about proper ergonomics (that's about all it takes), and I take breaks. If you follow good ergonomics, you don't get RTS, it's as simple as that. If you're too lazy to follow good ergonomics, you do. It's your fault, not the mouse's.

But speaking? You can't possibly NOT put strain on your throat. Yes, you can take breaks, but you can't improve the "ergonomics" of talking.

Third, how come someone gets credit for eye control and I get no credit for bringing up mind control. After all, mind control would be a hell of a lot more efficient than any of these other input mechanisms. You might be able to type 60 words a minute, but I can think about 1000.

Which brings me to my last point. your point about words per minute is well taken. But computers are used for far more than typing words. Personally, I think voice input is good for specialized operations (like word processing...say if you are a writer), but it would royally suck for programming. I can definitely type ";" faster than i can say "semicolon".

Switching to Eudora right now takes me less than a half a second (click on the dock). Saying, "Switch to Eudora" takes two seconds. That's not an increase in efficiency from where I sit, even IF you could flawlessly get the computer to differentiate my voice from the loud music playing in the background right now, which will be a feat in itself.

I'm not opposed to technological innovation, and I'm happy if voice recognition allows access to computers for people with physical challenges, but for most of us, I just think it's not suited as a primary control mechanism, that's all. It's supplemental, and "fun" at best.
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Old February 7th, 2002, 05:54 PM
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I have to aggree with suzerain. voice recognition is not practical and it never will be. testuser, I think you are overlooking the real huge problems with it.
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Going back to the original point, Apple should take the next logical step and standardize wireless keyboards and mice. Apple did a great service for Mac users by standardizing on the optical mouse.

The small bu great innovation would be to get rid of the transceiver that's present in current wireless devices. It sticks out like a sore thumb.

I can imagine the benefits of being able to mix up your iTunes songs from the comfort of your bed, without having to get up and walk over to the desk.
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more on this

I started a thread about wireless stuff... http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthr...threadid=13857
http://www.macosx.com/forums/showthr...threadid=12961
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