Rant: Quit yer whinin' (QE)

[dlookus]

I've had just about enough of all of the whining about Quartz Extreme and how it doesn't support every one's setup.

I've been burned much worse in the past. My PowerMac 7100 had NuBus slots. The very next rev had PCI. Not too many companies made NuBus cards after that. My Beige G3 was purchased a few months before the B&W G3 came out sporting USB and Firewire.

This stuff goes with the territory. You have to understand that. Quartz Extreme is really a bonus for those of us who can handle it. I really don't think people are being abandoned here. No one promised you Quartz Extreme when you bought your computer.

Also keep in mind that when you buy an iMac or a portable, you are buying something that is essentially not expandable. It is in certain respects, but it doesn't have the expandability that a tower has. You need to consider this when purchasing a computer. It's the reason I bought the machine I have and not a Cube.

I have a nearly 2 year old computer and OSX is fine on it. It isn't as snappy as it is on a new machine, but I really can't complain too much about it. I am looking forward to seeing Quartz Extreme in action, but it won't change my life.

[Matrix Agent]

You get a big thumbs up from the kid with a G3. Get a life or get a new computer guys. Reverse compatability stifles progress.

[dlookus]

Well put.

[sithious]

absolutely.

[Koelling]

hear hear!

I really don't need to say more, I've said enough on the other threads.

[peteLasko();]

Sure, I feel a little sad that my iBook may not see the phenominal gui progression that others may see with Jaguar (pronounced jagwire as apple is an American company, though I think jag-you-uhr sounds cooler, and that's how I pronounce the sublime driving machines of the same name) but I WHOLEHEARTEDLY sustain apple's innovation in this advancement in it's operating system.

If you have a 500mhz ibook, you might feel that OS X is a bit slow. If you want to boost your performance consider a hardware mod. (superb mod page). Your warantee is probably almost over anyway, so why not give it a shot. If you're that stressed about it, get an apple loan and like everyone else has said, quitcherwhynen!

[TellarHK]

Personally, I really resent the kind of attitude people are showing on this thread right now. You act like it's easy to get new hardware, or a loan. For a lot of us, it isn't. I know several people right now that would like nothing more than to get an iBook or a new iMac and toss their PCs, but they're held back by finances and/or concerns about what's happened to me and many others.

I bought an iBook 500 in November. I knew it was limited, I knew OSX wouldn't run swiftly, and I knew that Apple was working on it. Unfortunately, I didn't know that they were starting to show signs of what's been a major hassle in the PC industry for over a decade: Planned Obsolecence.

Sure, Apple's been lagging in the performance area for quite some time. And that, coupled with the introduction of an entirely new OS make it hard on a company to maintain some momentum. Unfortunately, what I feel like is that Apple orphaned my machine before it was six months old. From what I knew of Apple before this, it wasn't the case that they'd drop optimal support for a whole range of recent hardware like this. Now, having two PC machines (one home built, another a Sony VAIO desktop) I know full well what it's like to have shifting technological foundations. I know that yesterday's video card won't run tomorrow's games. Unfortunately, in the case of OSX, the operating system itself seems to bog down incredibly poorly on hardware faster than my last dedicated Linux machine was on.

Aqua is a mess, resource wise. It's not just 'non-optimized', it is a total wreck. It looks good, it runs well on a fast machine, but on last year's hardware it's just sluggish as heck. Even Windows claims to be 'faster' with every iteration save the server line. I can understand that Apple wants to use the new features of the Radeon and nVidia cards. I would too. But I'd like to at least feel like they're making an effort to keep people who spent good money on machines within the past year feel like we're still appreciated. I'm not asking for Quartz Extreme, I'm just asking for optimized Aqua for my video card. With the number of iBooks out there, they should make more of an effort to increase the battery life and responsiveness of the OS.

I wish Apple was more forthcoming about developments planned for 10.2. That way I'd know whether or not my investment in an Apple machine was appreciated by the company. And it'd let me know if I should start looking at eBay to see how much I can sell this thing for before the prices completely fall out of the market. If my first venture into a non-Wintel environment is going to be on hardware practically obsolete within a year, it'll be my last.

Apple's made some good strides at converting Windows and Unix users. I just hope they don't blow it now.

[sithious]

nope, you've certainly got me wrong there, tellarhk ... i'm not acting like it's easy to get up-to-date hardware, i can't afford to myself.
what i am saying is that os x runs perfectly well on my setup (g4/466/768mb ram), not sluggish in any way whatsoever, and therefore i don't really care whether quartz extreme will work for me or not, which it won't. if it did, cool, as it doesn't, so what? maybe quartz extreme makes os x even faster, but it's already pretty fast for me as it is...
i'm just fed up with people whining about window resizing and stuff ... if finder windows resized any faster, they'd be resizing before i even decided to resize them ... what's the point?