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Old May 31st, 2005, 06:23 PM
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"It Never Crashes" it does...

it seems to me that the super-stable intuitive, never-go-wrong, much advertised never-crashing just-works Mac OS X... isn't.

http://www.apple.com/uk/switch/whyswitch/

there's all the problems on windows with the .dlls, but then we get rogue .plist files that need to be trashed, and they are impossible to find, if you don't know where you are looking

there's also permissions. does this actually do anything? i've never seen any diffrence before or after a permissions repair.

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Are you just a tad too well acquainted with the notorious “blue screen of death”?
kernal panics? a nicely greyed -out, translucent screen of death.

i know nothings perfect, especially with technology, but i think apple could be a little bit more honest. "it hardly ever crashes", as opposed to "it never crashes" etc...
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Well any blanket statement about anything should be taken with a grain of salt. But i have to say my PowerBook never once crashed in 2 years of having it, while in the same time period my parent's PC has crashed 2 times that i can remember -- not a big deal, but i use my powerbook seemingly 24/7 and my parents use the PC every couple of days to check their email for 5 minutes.

However, with my parent's PC, with only 6-8 apps open, you begin to see the horrible multitasking abilities of Windows. I constantly have 10 apps open on my PowerBook and while both machines have the same amount of ram (although the PC has pc2700 and my powerbook only has PC 133) i never see a slow down

From what i've seen in your other posts, i don't think it's too far off to think there is a hardware problem with your computer. What do the Apple specialists have to say about your problems?
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Old May 31st, 2005, 07:05 PM
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my mac works fine, now... i did have problems around the tiger upgrade, but it seems to have subsided, and i never had it crash, it was minor instability.

i posted this objectively, not as a personal bitch, but because i've seen a general increase in the trend for posts about trashing plists, kernal panics and automatic diagnosing of a permissions problem. has it always been like this? i'm not sure. i suppose it was just a late night gripe....
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my mac works fine, now... i did have problems around the tiger upgrade, but it seems to have subsided, and i never had it crash, it was minor instability.

i posted this objectively, not as a personal bitch, but because i've seen a general increase in the trend for posts about trashing plists, kernal panics and automatic diagnosing of a permissions problem. has it always been like this? i'm not sure. i suppose it was just a late night gripe....
No one said OS X never crashes. The person who thinks that needs his/her head examined.

Computers are the most complex home tool in most houses today! That is safe to say. I don't know where computer users got the idea that a computer should never be problem free. Strike that, I do know. It was years of marketing! My advise to you, don't believe the hype.
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Old May 31st, 2005, 09:05 PM
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No one said OS X never crashes. The person who thinks that needs his/her head examined.
apple did, on the switch page. i regret posting this thread. can we close it now? i was in a bad mood but i'm better now . i just had a stupid argument with a windows user about the mac/pc debate (started by my first switcher, a girl) after this, and i realised all is well when it is a lot more stable than their boxes. i can run 10 apps and it'll be fine. i don't have to live behind a firewall, and run anti-spy/ad/malware programs weekly, or defrag the HDDs or clean the registry etc.... like anything designed by humans though, human error will surface, in this case, in coding errors, which equate to bugs. and my mac has far fewer of these than xp. not none, but fewer.

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You can lock the thread yourself as you are the one that started it. Look for the little lock thingy.
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apple did, on the switch page. i regret posting this thread. can we close it now? i was in a bad mood but i'm better now . i just had a stupid argument with a windows user about the mac/pc debate (started by my first switcher, a girl) after this, and i realised all is well when it is a lot more stable than their boxes. i can run 10 apps and it'll be fine. i don't have to live behind a firewall, and run anti-spy/ad/malware programs weekly, or defrag the HDDs or clean the registry etc.... like anything designed by humans though, human error will surface, in this case, in coding errors, which equate to bugs. and my mac has far fewer of these than xp. not none, but fewer.
I run Firefox on my Windows PC and I don't have problems with spyware / adware etc. It also depends on the kind of sites that you visit. A lot of viruses nowadays are sent via email so if you use prudent email practice, you should be fine.

With that said though, XP is seriously out of date. It was released in 2001 like OS X but has only had two service packs - both of which were designed to fix bugs and security flaws that shouldn't have been in the OS in the first place. And OS X has advanced a fair deal in that time in comparison.

I tend to hibernate my machine (so technically it's running without restarts) but every few weeks I get a BSOD and have to restart it. It doesn't seem to be comfortable with being on for long periods of time despite the fact that I have enough fans to drown out a jet engine.
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I've managed to crash my PB twice by simply plugging in my USB 2 memory stick. That simple. Just plug it in and the translucent screen of death comes up.
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