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Old November 18th, 2005, 04:59 PM
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Well, those comparisons are always flawed, because Apple gives you a certain amount of configurations, whereas if you build a PC yourself, you have SUCH a wide choice that you can probably build your PC for any price you want. The problem clearly is that if a person is _not_ willing to sacrifice Mac OS X as the operating system, then only a Mac can do: And you're back with what Apple offers.

For years I've been saying (and I still think I'm right): Apple's pricing is good with the iBooks and PowerBooks, but it sucks with the desktops. Well, the mini changed that a bit, of course.


sooon enough we'll be building laptops too.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 05:11 PM
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sooon enough we'll be building laptops too.
Already there. ASUS has a laptop that you can build yourself, for the most part anywas.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 05:24 PM
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Already there. ASUS has a laptop that you can build yourself, for the most part anywas.


whiteys only make up 5% of the laptop market. So far big companies have been good about not allowing people to build their own.



That'll change as time goes on.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 05:32 PM
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Old November 18th, 2005, 06:22 PM
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Yeah -- because Apple's price points right now just absolutely suck, and no one is buying their machines.[/sarcasm]

Apple's computers aren't priced any higher than a comparatively-spec'ed Intel- or AMD-based machine. There have been plenty of comparisons of equally-configured Apple/Windows machines, and the Apple machines end up costing roughly the same (+- 5%) as their Windows counterparts. If you take into account the price of the freely included software that comes with every Macintosh purchase (iLife, operating system, etc.), the Macs actually cost less than a similarly-spec'ed Windows machine.

The only drawback to Apple machines is that you can't get less than what they sell. You can't take out the optical audio port if you don't need it, and you can't purchase the computers without a hard drive or RAM installed. That's the only reason bargain-basement crappy home-built systems cost less.

In addition, if your hard drive goes out, who are you gonna call for a warranty repair? Western Digital, of course... and if the video card goes, that's another call to ATi... and if the memory craps out, call Crucial.

If anything goes wrong with your Apple computer, you call Apple. One phone call = multiple problems fixed. Apple, according to Consumer Reports, was ranked extremely high in customer service and repair service. They're not perfect, but nobody is, and Apple is doing many, many things to improve their already stellar customer service.

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if anything goes wrong I'll fix it myself, for the most part, or find someone who knows how to do it. Computers are everywhere. Its not hard to find free good service from a couple friends you have over for a beer or two.


no, they aren't higher, 1,000 plus 78 dollars isn't much (going rate for WinXP Pro..)


Free shipping and handling is almost standard nowadays. If you know how to find a good deal, you'll get one, and I hate to say it, but Macs aren't always it...
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Actually I own one of those Asus laptops. I picked it up a year ago. Its a cenrino 1.6, has 768mb ram at the moment and a 5400rpm 60gig drive, firewire, 3 usb 2.0, built in card reader, 1x pcmcia, combo drive, intel 10/100 ethernet and 802.11g. Its a 12.1" laptop and weighs 3.4lbs http://www.ynot2k.com/products/laptops/m5n/m5n.ht7.jpg

its basically a bare bones when you start off. No processor, no ram, no HD but it has the rest. Nice laptop. The fan in it is a bit louder than I'd like when its going at full speed but aside from that its nice.
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if anything goes wrong I'll fix it myself, for the most part, or find someone who knows how to do it. Computers are everywhere. Its not hard to find free good service from a couple friends you have over for a beer or two.
So.... I fail to see your arguments and I think you're just trolling. Firstly, you're saying that Macs are more expensive because you can cobble together a PC for cheaper. As Eldiablo pointed out, Macs don't cost too much compared to similarly configured PCs. Such cobbled together PCs aren't used by the majority of PC users, only the enthusiasts like yourself. By the above quote, you've basically agreed since how many home users know how to fix PC problems?

What would you pay for a machine that was easy to maintain and you didn't need to ask for favors from a technologically knowledgeable friend? Compared to Dells, HPs, and other large PC manufacturers, Macs don't cost too much.

Apple isn't the be all end all of computers. If they don't suit you, go elsewhere. Just because it doesn't fit your needs, doesn't mean it doesn't fit the needs of other people.
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Old November 19th, 2005, 06:11 AM
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Apple isn't the be all end all of computers. If they don't suit you, go elsewhere. Just because it doesn't fit your needs, doesn't mean it doesn't fit the needs of other people.[/QUOTE]

I can't agree more with that phrase. My opinion is many PC people come into the Mac and windows argument with that attitude. Maybe because M$ is so dominate they feel anything else is challenging. My opinion is my Mac fits my style, what I am comfortable using, and solves my day-day solutions. In the end, it is a preference. I prefer the Macintosh over a PC for several reasons. Design of the computer, stability & reliability, and mostly I prefer OSX over other OSs, particularly windows. With this said, it does not mean windows is not useful, or that I could not get my work done on a PC. It is just means I prefer Apple.
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