Tiger - Page 2

Lt Major Burns · #9 September 24th, 2005, 07:50 AM

i agree with you. i disappointed with myself for not being content with panther. the hype got me. i don't like tigers features, or their implementation - spotlight is half a job, and not nearly system wide. smart folders are just too slow and clucky to be useful, they need to be far more fundamental. the way it searches is poor, offering no context to which file it is you want (say i have 5 versions of a song with the same title?), and there seems to be no consistency in even search areas! (the spotlight icon, top right; the "show all" window; the Finder apple+f and the open dialogue box, all differ)

dashboard is slow, and as it has been pointed out, too slow (it takes less time to find the real calculator and open it then to go into dashboard and add the calculator) to really benefit anything. it was always designed to be a distraction. and where is Quartz 2d extreme?

mail, i don't use, as i have http mail; ichat, i don't use because the world still uses msn. the slideshow is really difficult when more than 10 images are loaded...

but... with all of that... i have gotten so used to spotlight, i am totally sure i couldn't go back. i've tried. i look up at the old apple menu logo, and dispair at going backwards. damn apple. this is a poor version.

Reality · #10 September 24th, 2005, 11:58 PM

I been reading what everyone has been saying here and its made me curious. Do you guys think that perhaps it would have been best if Tiger never released? That way Apple could have kept on working on it all the way to the time Vista was about to come out. It probably be faster, more features, a set theme through out all apps, perhaps a theme changer (I'd love that), ect ect.

I'm just wondering all this because sure enough Vista is on its way. We wont know for sure just how improved it'll be till its here but, would be kinda nice to think Apple has something in the works that'll be a nice step forward for us around that time. I just get to thinking if Apple had kept Tiger in development, how much bigger it could have been, and well more satisfying.

Lt Major Burns · #11 September 25th, 2005, 07:02 AM

tbh, i think even vista looks more unified than macos at the moment, everything seems bitty since tiger. expecially with dashboard and spotlight. two extra features that seem like add-ons, not a flowing pool of tools and functions. like a car with a cd player on the dashboard compared to one with a cd changer built in.

i do have an idea though - a theme selector - it would apply to ALL apps, system wide: you choose whether you want aqua, bushed steel, unified etc. and all would change accordingly.

mbveau · #12 September 25th, 2005, 04:35 PM

Now, I didn't upgrade from Panther when Tiger first came out. I was thinking of upgrading, but my productivity is perfectly satisfactory with Panther. It sounds like you guys wouldn't suggest upgrading at this point... What do you think? I know it'll get better with time, but I'm happy.

Veljo · #13 September 25th, 2005, 07:06 PM

I think this thread raises some very valid points, points I hope Apple will take the time to consider and take on board for Leopard.

Overall Tiger is a much better operating system to me than Panther. It feels faster and cleaner. Thats _not_ to say that I have a lot of things bugging me.

fjdouse raises some extremely valid points that I totally agree with. The actual _look_ of Tiger is driving me insane. The _only_ look I like is the unified title bar/toolbar look with large icons without text, simple as that. The fact that we have so many UI's over every application, from Safari/Finder's brushed metal, to the _ugly_ new Mail, to the _extremely_ ugly iTunes to the more decent unified title bar/toolbar look. This needs to change _now_. I like consistency. This isn't a beta to see what looks good where. It's a fact that brushed metal is hated, so get rid of it.

With windows, I don't like the way inactive windows look anymore. Back in the Puma days an inactive window would have its title bar partly transparent, making the active window to me much more visible. After looking at some screenshots of Vista, I've noticed that inactive windows are transparent and the contents _behind_ this window seem blurry/frosty. I really like this feature and I think Apple should employ something similar.

On the subject of Dashboard, I don't find it terribly useful. The only widgets I use are Weather, Calculator and occasionally Dictionary/Thesaurus. That being said, it's nice to have the calculator one button press away.

Themes has always come up in the past, but it doesn't really bother me. I just want some consistency between apps, the brushed metal gone, the Mail look gone, and unified toolbar look in all my apps.

PS. Fix the damn minimized window badging too! The app icons on minimized windows always look like they're a 16x16 image resized to a 48x48 or something.

brownelkspeaks · #14 September 27th, 2005, 06:04 PM

Wow, I was unaware the system was so buggy. But then, I up-graded to Tiger two weeks ago from system 7.5 which I had been using for the last 11 years. Nor was I aware of any of the Tiger hype.

I guess it depends upon your perspective, really. Sure I've endured a crash since I've had it but holy smokes, compared to what I've been using I feel like I was just promoted from ship's galley to the bridge of the Enterprise.

I'm sure I'll be spoiled eventually but for now I'm enjoying the ride.

Veljo · #15 September 27th, 2005, 07:34 PM

Oh believe me, the gap between System 7.5 and Tiger is about as big as Earth to Pluto. If you want a bigger shock, go back to 7.5 after you've used Tiger for a few months

nixgeek · #16 September 27th, 2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brownelkspeaks

Wow, I was unaware the system was so buggy. But then, I up-graded to Tiger two weeks ago from system 7.5 which I had been using for the last 11 years. Nor was I aware of any of the Tiger hype.

I guess it depends upon your perspective, really. Sure I've endured a crash since I've had it but holy smokes, compared to what I've been using I feel like I was just promoted from ship's galley to the bridge of the Enterprise.

I'm sure I'll be spoiled eventually but for now I'm enjoying the ride.

Wow! Talk about holding out!

Well, although I still have my qualms about the inconsistency of the interface, I have to say that my iMac G5 running 10.4.2 is running quite well and has been rock solid since I bought it. Of course, 10.4 was already installed on this Mac so it probably doesn't count. Maybe once I upgrade to 10.5, eh?? Then I'll be back whining about how it didn't upgrade properly. But then again, I always like to install from scratch on my desktops.