Tiger - Page 3

fjdouse · #17 October 5th, 2005, 04:48 AM

Veljo,
Enjoyed reading your comments, I am probably in the minority when I say I really like brushed metal, in fact, everyone I've spoken to in the 'real' world likes it too. More brushed metal for me! Get rid of the cheap, tacky plastic! It does seem like Apple are just using commercial products to beta-test ideas, this is disgusting. You wanna use MY Mac to beta test, fine - but don't bloody well charge ME for the inconvenience! THEN tell me I'm getting something better than I had before!

To me, I really feel disappointed by Apple and overall, I'm disappointed a bit by the switch back to Mac. There, I've said it. I never thought I would. The only thing which makes it worthwhile is iLife, it makes many tasks easy and pleasant, as do many Mac applications. I liked Panther, it ran well on my mini and was a joy to use, Tiger is patchy at best. One day it can boot up like lightning, the desktop can appear and it's ready to go, other times it will boot and the desktop appears but another 30 secs elapse before anything is usable because something is still chugging away.. what? where? why? Finder doesn't feel as I think it should, it feels slow, I cannot quantify that and I cannot give an example which is consistantly repeatable.

Consistancy is the word here. There seems to be a lack of it.

I may be wrong but it feels like Apple are far more interested in tempting spoilt brats of the 'iWhatever generation' with more and more and MORE F***ING music players than computers. Yup, another player doing EXACTLY the same job as the previous model, another player to be added to the growing signature lines of the click-kiddies, another player to cast into the drawer with the others within 3 months. Apple, what are you? Because I REALLY do not know. Get your priorities in order. Perhaps the company should split into two or something, one to play it's little music empire games and one to get on with the business of making decent computers. At the moment it feels like a half-arsed effort with the Mac, "Yeah, we'll just palm them off with this crap until we can sell them PCs, erm, I mean Intel Macs, they're so stupid they won't know the difference. Anyway, let's concentrate on something more fun, another music player!"

Apple, you are falling out of favour with me.

Rant over.

sirstaunch · #18 October 5th, 2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nixgeek

As you mentioned fjdouse, Steve Jobs needs to get back on track with the Mac. I'm starting to think that many of these changes that have taken place are a way to move Apple away from the Mac and into something else. Remember that originally Jobs was against the Mac, while Woz and others were for it. Jobs tried to push for the Lisa and a continuation of the Apple line (non-Mac that is) but when he noticed that it was a failed venture, he jumped ship and supported that Macintosh all the way. Sometimes I lose respect for him only because of things like this. It's a shame that Woz was the one that always got the shaft even though he had the greatest ideas around.

So what is the difference in Lisa from Mac? has anyone here seen it?

nixgeek · #19 October 5th, 2005, 09:19 AM

Actually, I made an error in my mentioning of Jobs and the Lisa. If I remember correctly, Jobs was still attached to the Apple II/III line. The Lisa was actually part of Woz's work as well. Sorry for this misinformation.

Here's some better information regarding the Apple line, the Lisa/Macintosh line, and Steve Jobs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...e_III_and_Lisa

**fryke** · #20 October 5th, 2005, 05:56 PM

Lisa screenshots here: http://www.jmusheneaux.com/9001.htm
Early Mac (System 1.1/Finder 1.1) screenshots here: http://www.jmusheneaux.com/512k.htm#APPLE

Note that the very first Macs were released with System 0.9 or something, but it shouldn't look too different IIRC.

fjdouse · #21 October 5th, 2005, 07:00 PM

I did start this thread for general gripes about Tiger, rather than Apple history...

sirstaunch · #22 October 5th, 2005, 07:06 PM

Wow, Lisa looks/looked AMAZING

My friend has the first Mac, makes me want to go visit him and have a play on it. I remember vaguely roadrunner. And he's little capture device where we had to sit very still to have our picture taken then we looked like photocopies on a sceeen LOL

Couldn't say if it was 0.9 fryke, I wasn't system knowledgeable until System 7's and above.

Edit Here: Yep sorry fjdouse, say no more.

Tiger rocks

fjdouse · #23 October 6th, 2005, 05:26 AM

I've found (for those actually interested in the original point of the thread) that using OnyX to disable the dashboard DOES give some relief to the gloppy performance I've been referring to. Of course, then one is running a crippled system, and as per my experience so far, tomorrow it could run like a bag-o-sh*t when I next boot up.

Having already forked out once for a memory upgrade, should I now fork out MORE cash for a 512 to 1GB upgrade? The prices for the memory are so stupidly high, I can't resolve the.. morality ..of spending such amounts on something so.. (can't find the right word).. minor. (?)

Lt Major Burns · #24 October 6th, 2005, 05:46 AM

have you turned beam syncing off in the Quartzdebugger? my performance improved tenfold after that.