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Never buy Apple products again!

I bought an iBook 12" G3-600 last week, on Nov 1st. Since then, obviously, the price for a G3-700 was reduced and the model was given a better video card. The model I speak of, now, in Canadian funds is down to 1499$.

Will Apple refund the difference? No.
Will the store refund me for the whole machine? No. They'll refund me for the new price minus a restocking fee?
Will my model actually allow me to use Quartz Extreme to its fullest extent? No, the video card isn't good enough.

Apparently, Apple does not have price protection with its affiliates. Even if I was to buy the Apple on Nov 5th and the price changed on Nov 6th, I'd be charged the Nov 5th price.

This is absolutely unbelievable and ridiculous. It is testimony to what kind of a sh*t company Apple is, and how offensive their business practices are. Any other company would have refunded me my money, but of course this is Apple we're talking about and they're so f*cking special.

This is the first and the last time I ever buy anything from Apple. The way I figure it, no matter how good your OS is, a horrible company backing a good product still makes that product sh*t.

F*ck you Apple!

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Old November 7th, 2002, 05:40 PM
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If you had read these websites before buying it, you'd have known to wait. don't come here now to slam on apple. live with it. you have a nice iBook.
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Old November 7th, 2002, 05:43 PM
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Re: Never buy Apple products again!

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Originally posted by Annihilatus
I bought an iBook 12" G3-600 last week, on Nov 1st. Since then, obviously, the price for a G3-700 was reduced and the model was given a better video card. The model I speak of, now, in Canadian funds is down to 1499$.

Will Apple refund the difference? No.
Will the store refund me for the whole machine? No. They'll refund me for the new price minus a restocking fee?
Will my model actually allow me to use Quartz Extreme to its fullest extent? No, the video card isn't good enough.

Apparently, Apple does not have price protection with its affiliates. Even if I was to buy the Apple on Nov 5th and the price changed on Nov 6th, I'd be charged the Nov 5th price.

This is absolutely unbelievable and ridiculous. It is testimony to what kind of a sh*t company Apple is, and how offensive their business practices are. Any other company would have refunded me my money, but of course this is Apple we're talking about and they're so f*cking special.

This is the first and the last time I ever buy anything from Apple. The way I figure it, no matter how good your OS is, a horrible company backing a good product still makes that product sh*t.

F*ck you Apple!

Andre

So let me see if I understand you right:

1) You bought a Ibook from Apple on november 1 because you wanted to, not because anyone forced you.

2) You were totally unaware of the impending upgrade, and now that you have become aware that Apple upgraded it's ibook the day or so AFTER you bought your ibook at a price you thought was accpetable (I'm assuming you made the choice to buy with your own money, not someone else), you think Apple owes you something?

Well if you try that in the PC world you'll get the same result. I think this is just the nature of the high-tech beast. I built a 1.2GHz Celeron last year just before Intel significantly dropped the prices of its CPU's. Should I go back and ask for a refund? I think not.

I can tell you I've been thinking to buy an Apple for 2-3 months now. But because of the prices, I thought it wasn't worth it. Now I'm sitting kinda pretty, as I can get something with more features/performance at a lower price.
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"I bought an iBook 12" G3-600 last week, on Nov 1st. Since then, obviously, the price for a G3-700 was reduced and the model was given a better video card. The model I speak of, now, in Canadian funds is down to 1499$."

You're a regular to this forum so you must have had some inkling that new iBooks were due on or around November 6th so why is this such a surprise to you?

"Will Apple refund the difference? No.
Will the store refund me for the whole machine? No. They'll refund me for the new price minus a restocking fee?"

I always investigate a stores return policy when making a big purchase. Don't you?

"Will my model actually allow me to use Quartz Extreme to its fullest extent? No, the video card isn't good enough."

Obviously the 16 MB Radeon was good enough when you purchased your iBook. Why isn't it good enough now?

Its unfortunate you are so displeased with your purchase but if it was good enough for you 6 days and did everything you needed it for, why should the release of new iBooks change that?
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This has always been their policy. Reduce prices when you buy your new laptop a couple days ago. But if you want to take full advantage of quartz extreme you should of been pointed to the Powerbook. While the ibook has a new video card it is a consumer laptop and so it remains.

You should be glad you own a ibook as not many people can afford a computer at this time.

But i digress, you were screwed but so were the people who payed for Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar.

While your complaint is justified from your standpoint i just don't see why they should give you a refund. But maybe im just a mac entusiast.Is that terrible? No.
Did you read before you bought? Knowing that the video card was not up to your standards?
Patience is a virtue . If you have to wait than do it. Otherwise stop complaining.

Perhaps this is a cold response. I apologize.
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The 32 MB Radeon 7500 in the new iBooks are the same as the previous PowerBooks. Why wouldn't they take full advantage of QE?

Also, the 16 MB Radeon takes full advantage of QE as well. For managing a GUI, 16 MB is more than enough. For running Quake 3, you may want more.
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thanks for the info.
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Obviously, you are suffering from a severe case of anger at Apple. You were pefectly happy with buying your iBook before, and were satisfied with it before the new release, but know, suddenly it isn't good enough. You've made your request out of anger, and the post has no effect on us.
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