don't "switch"

[cellfish]

I have to admit that koim makes a good point.

[edX]

Microsoft has designed an OS that runs smooth on biilions of different configurations, video cards, motherboards, memory, around the globe.

i would really like to see you support this statement. if this was true, there would be no switch campaign.

most of us will admit that os x needs some improvements. show me an os that doesn't. we only get up in arms when someone makes the claim that windows is somehow superior.

[koim]

Originally posted by Ed Spruiell
i would really like to see you support this statement. if this was true, there would be no switch campaign.

Well, most people I´ve spoken to have had no problems with XP.

[fryke]

Hey, I'm using quite a decent little subnotebook this very moment, and it's a PC alright. A Sony VAIO PCG-CX1N. It's running Windows smoothly after some tweaking, and I might try and install Linux on it tomorrow, though I doubt I'll find all necessary drivers for it. Still, I wouldn't want to work on it, because the OS would get in my way too much. It's fine for browsing, chatting and for writing my stories (almost any OS I know of is fine for text input...), but for more I want a Mac.

I do admit OS X has flaws that have to be fixed, certainly. But you'll have to accept that for the jobs I'm doing, Mac OS X is the best operating system around, and I'm glad I'm getting some decent hardware to run it on. Nothing really beats Apple's notebooks for me.

[RacerX]

Koim,

I don't think you quite have a grasp of the why to many of your statements. Why does Windows have a web browser that is so much better than the rest of the computing world? Because Microsoft has been going out of their way for years to kill standards and get people to use proprietary code. Why does Windows have the ability to run on so many PCs? For years Microsoft forced PC maker to include a license for Windows with every PC they made or loss the ability to sell PCs with Windows. Why does Windows work with so many third party parts? Because the makers of those parts write drivers for them for free (Apple has had to write their own drivers or had to pay third party venders to write them).

The problem is that you seem to be a little brainwashed by Microsoft here. This is the way it is with every non-Windows platform, not just the Mac. Solaris on SPARC, Irix on MIPS, they have the same problem we do. Even Linux, BSD and the BeOS have had an up hill battle on x86.

If you thing that moving to x86 is going to solve the problem(as you seem to in your Apple's future thread), your completely wrong. It didn't help SGI when they moved to PCs. It didn't help NeXT when they moved to PCs. It didn't help Sun when they moved to PCs. And it surely didn't help Be when they moved to PCs.

Microsoft has not gotten to this point by making quality products. They got here by making people believe that using Windows is the path of least resistance. They didn't force people to use their products nor have their products ever been the best on the market, they work to remove alternatives.

If you want to use a PC, please, by all means use one. No one here is stopping you. Just let other people use what they feel happiest with. You don't have to agree, but berating people for their choice because it is not the same conclusion that you seem to have arrived at is not needed either.

Enjoy your PC.

[tamma]

Originally posted by habilis

See, every day I crank up Photoshop 7 (50% max system RAM[512MB] - G4 dual 1GHz), Illustrator 10, Dreamweaver, and Explorer. Of course filters work faster, but not THAT much faster, and in Illustrator 10 I noticed hardly any improvement, even in launch time then in my G4-450MHz. I'm really trying to keep an open mind about osx, as for taking this thing in to have somebody check it out, well, I'm literally broke after buying the thing in the first place. I tried out the same machine at this place called Microcenter, and speedwise, it was exactly the same, Photoshop and everything. If you don't believe it, please do this test:

I run the same apps as you do and i have never been happyer with them. I normaly have 2 or 3 apps open when i work with photoshop and it still runs beautifully. i did run illustrator in classic mode and it worked fine for me. I do not think OSX is to blame for your problems

I am am a tech at my job and i support macs in 11 buildings and i have seen your problem before. i actulay saw it on a new imac. and the solution was simple i sent it to an authorized apple service provider and they replaced the motherbord. the repair took 9 days. and when it came back it worked like a dream. Just send it in. You will be glad you did.

OH and i forget to mention XP Sucks!!!!!!! I know you like it but..... DAM XP SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RacerX]

Originally posted by koim
But to all you die-hard mac fans who refuse to tuch a PC because you´re afraid you might catch a nasty disease, think of this:

They aren't called diseases, they're called viruses and worms! And yes, I would be afraid of my system catching one if I used a Wintel system, as every Wintel person I know has had numerous infections of their systems and/or they have to sit and watch for the weekly (sometimes daily and hourly) hole patches that Microsoft issues.

[cellfish]

As much as I like the Mac, I have to say that I feel the hatred toward Microsoft is somewhat unwarranted. While I think Chimera is a much cooler browser than IE, I still think that there's nothing better than Microsoft Office X, I think MSN Messenger is quite good and I even enjoy Windows Media Player on the Mac. Microsoft, while responsible for a few technological atrocities left and right, have really cleaned up in the past few years.

XP, while it was my last hope for remaining on the PC, is actually not that bad despite its faults. Most of the stuff you would need from an operating system is already there, the speed is pretty good, the stability is pretty good and the compatibility with programs is damn nice (compared to Mac OS X). The PC's problem is not so much Microsoft as it is the PC makers. Microsoft isn't the one making HSP Winmodems that pollute the earth, MS isn't causing the processors to overheat and require humongous fans not to burn your house down, MS isn't responsible for how bad USB 2.0 is. Sure Windows absolutely sucked once, but the reason it sucked is not because of MS, but rather because of the hardware it runs on. I'm pretty sure Windows wasn't meant to run on a 30$ motherboard with an on-board everything with fail-sure 0.20$ ram.

Apple only releases hardware that has been thoroughly tested. Microsoft doesn't, MS doesn't have control over that. As a result, you get crap operation and blame that is directed toward the wrong party.