BILL & HP copy APPLE Design

[hulkaros]

You AND Cellfish name a Wintel that has the things that the Apple has in PowerMacs as well as the cost for that config... Oh, and name the companies too! Then go ahead and buy that thing actually and then we can have a REAL debate about ease of use, support of new technologies and innovations...

Because BinaryDigit and Cellfish you NEVER worked on a similar Wintels cause if you had you would really know that your replies are... Well, to put it nice:
- Inexperienced

But maybe that's because you BinaryDigit use Windows 2000 instead of Windows XPerience... Heck, you should have used XP more in order to upgrade your XPerience points...





As for USB, if you doubt that it lived on the Wintel side because of iMac then I guess the world is flat for you too! USB on the Wintels before the iMac it was just another port in the back of Wintels!!! But your reply to USB PLUS all the other replies shows how really open minded the open minded people like you and Cellfish really are...

As for the OS/2 thing it isn't even from M$ AND the M$ did their best in order to kill it... But the thing you mention, could you redirect me to more info... Because, frankly I have a 486/80MHz running OS/2 Warp 3 and I can install anytime Warp 4 and I never saw the OS do the minimize effect showing real time the contents of a given app...

[j79]

This is somewhat off topic (considering it doesn't have much to do with PC / Mac stats.. or, umm, why one is better than the other..)

Just that, when I saw this image:
http://www.chuok.net/images/index/hp_appleclone.jpg

I immediatly thought of this (like, their inspiration..):
http://www.chuok.net/images/index/hp...nspiration.jpg

^_~

Anyways, just wanted to share that 4 minute photoshop piece with you guys... (yes, I felt proud of the work...)

Feel free to commence the PC/Mac arguments.

[MikeXpop]

Originally posted by cellfish
PC users demand a lot.

Yes they do. Like when I was working on my PC last night. I demanded that Windows not completely ruin a huge school project (that was due the next day) and destroy 11 hours of painfully detailed and hard work, then decide that the video capture device that had worked fine for the past 5 days didn't exist anymore, all at 11:00 PM. Windows failed me. And my Apple just plain doesn't. It's an operating system that listens to me, and most of all, it's an operating system that knows when devices are plugged in.

On a side note, I'm excited to see this Microsoft/HP thing. I hope I can get my mother to replace our old dell with one, so then maybe my video editing projects would work (they might actually go at a reasonable speed too )


lol, and funny photoshop j79.

[Anim8r]

Originally posted by binaryDigit
Six display cards in an SE !?! Now that would be a sight Guess the cards were velcroed to the exterior of the case and chained together with a ribbon cable That and the speed would have been atrocious since the cpu wouldn't even have come close to being able to keep up with all that info. Now daisy chaining six SE's with Appletalk, now that was/is doable and having some amount of screen synchronization. You could do some cool video wall effects with that, even back then.

One of the biggest problems with Windoze has been it's too tight integration with it's video drivers. This allows for some very impressive performance numbers, but it makes writing good quality drivers more difficult and makes extending the display subsystem substantially harder (hence the up till now rarity of going dual displays and the impossibility to do it in a heterogenous video card setup). But then again, from a software design standpoint, the lack of clear delineation between various levels of functionality is a general weakness of the entire platform (e.g. IE).

Sorry... I forget you young whippersnappers don't know what it was like.
There were two commercially available card cages for the SE and SE-30 that added up to 6 additional card slots. Both were SCSI and had a high enough data transfer rate to allow for color video cards.
Let's also not forget that display graphics were not what they are today. The speed was just fine.
I believe the SE version came with a card interface as well.
Yeah, the Appletalk networking was fun... I remember the energizer bunny hack from way back.... used to make the bunny march across sequential screens in a network banging his frickin' drum. You never knew when it was going to get back to your screen.

[anerki]

*cough* Flamewar *cough*

[fryke]

You're right, anerki, and we don't like those.

I'm closing this thread now for this reason, and also because there doesn't seem to be a 'right' other forum to move the thread to. This is Apple News & Rumors, and this thread certainly isn't that.

[fryke]

Okay... I revise my 'judgement-too-fast' of before and reopen this in opinions...

[anerki]

There are plenty of reasons to use both Mac and PC, it's all about personal taste, but most people who've experienced Mac choose Mac ... Why? Their choice, they can ask for advice, it happens a lot on Macosx.com but please, respect peoples opinions ... If they want to use PC instead or Mac, let them! Fanatical Mac-users aren't going to change the world ... 'Nuance' is a beautiful world (translation to English plz? [Toast, you're the expert here])

Windows copied a lot from Mac ... Mac copied a lot from Windows I'm sure ... (Where did control-click and tabs and all that stuff come from, thin air?). Let it be, it was said somehwere in this thread: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ...) If something is good or succesful, why be angry about it when PC copies it, why be afraid it will affect Mac? Just let it be, that's the way it is, that's the way it will always be ...

(Cough, so much for the lecture )

Grtz,
.FJ