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Old July 11th, 2003, 06:36 AM
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I see a recent trend of Mac respect. Having used them for 18 years, things are getting better. I realized it when Cnet gave a Powermac a great review. Not that I care what Cnet says, although for years they trashed Apple for its hardware and software.
Another trend I see is some, not many win$ users are tried of the interface, worried about the security, and pissed off about the endless updates.
The Washington Post, NYT, and others have given Apple decent reviews, and praise, traditionally, they did not.
It is getting somewhat better. Mac OSX has helped.
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Old July 11th, 2003, 07:54 AM
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I love it when people tell me that macs cost too much. The first thing I say is, "well, Porsche's cost a lot too... I guess you want a hyundai."

The slow comment has always made me laugh too... Yes the G4 fell behind the P4 in terms of raw speed...but for anyone whos ever used a top end G4 - honestly, has you ever sat there and said to yourself "God I hate this thing, its so slow"

Computers are so fast these days, the differences between fast and faster don't translate into any difference in user experience.

And then we get into that end of it... I feel trapped when I am using a PC [like right now]. No iTunes, iPhoto, Safari, Adium, Mail.app - the list goes on and on... I'm talking about the dozens of free OSX only aps that I use every day. Sure all of these applications have counter PC competitors but have you ever used any of them? They're horrible in comparison!

If price and speed were the only things that mattered, apple wouldn't have any customers. The reality is, user experience is what matters to us, and thats why we use the mac. So what if our market share is less, we're still getting the best experience in the world... Just like driving a Porsche. We're elite
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Old July 11th, 2003, 07:58 AM
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Re: Re: When will Apple get any respect?

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.... USB was created by intel and others i believe to compete with fw....
Intel bought USB. I suppose that purchases pass for creations in the Wintel world.
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Old July 11th, 2003, 11:13 AM
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Bought USB?
unless this is something new, it seems to me, that Intel, Apple, Microsoft, IBM, HP etc were all members of an alliance that created USB. USB1 never was, and never could have been a competitor to Firewire.
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Old July 11th, 2003, 11:16 AM
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Again, I'm not saying Apple invented USB or the DVD burner, I'm saying they set the trend on those things that we all as a computing community reap the benefits of.

I would think popular opinion will continue to swing into 2004. G5 is a beast and the possabilities are huge on it. We know in 2004 we will be at 3.0GHz in our PowerMac line. That's huge! We know that Panther has huge advancements in it. Apple is becoming mainstream behind the scenes by pushing Kerberos in their OS and things like Active Directory support and such. As they integrate more of the "rest of the world" into their OS, it will pick up users.

It's funny. Apple's user base is actually increasing, from what I've read, despite their percentages decreasing. It's a misleading statistic. Remember, more and more people are buying computers. It's just that the PC market, obviously, expands faster than Apple's does. It doesn't necessarily indicate a loss of consumers or lack of growth.
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Old July 11th, 2003, 11:21 AM
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Check out USB.org
down the bottom:
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Site sponsored by USB Implementers Forum, Inc., creators of USB technology
Go to the members list.
there are 922 members of the USB implementers forum, inc. goto http://www.usb.org/app/db/search/contacts/ for the full list.
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Old July 11th, 2003, 11:25 AM
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Go3iverson, i was responding to MisterMe' post about intel buying usb.
I agree with you fully Go3.
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Oh, I know, it was more directed back at Animus, who was the first saying that Apple doesn't build this and that, which is 100% true. The thing is, they are the one's that ship it out. We missed the boat on CD-R/CD-RW, but we set the trend in DVD-R.

Its give and take.
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