Stupid Apple store employees - Page 2

**Giaguara** · #9 April 25th, 2004, 04:13 PM

A friend had a G5 that wuit working. It'd have the startup chime, then end for hours to the grey screen before startup, not getting anywhere further. Retrying it in a single user mode didn't work - it would tell it had problems so even the fsck -fy would not have worked in it. Starting to a CD did not work, starting in target mode did not work - it did not show in the other computer after minutes and minutes of wait...
So, trying and retrying with the genius.. at some point he was able to start up to an external firewire harddrive from the store - to run Norton on the G5. Norton did not want to run - "Disk error" (wouldn't it be nice to get a bit more specific error code for a program that is supposed to fix your disk problems?) .. after which, Disk Utility did not want to run because of Norton (which after re and retried still refused to fix the disk. So, .. wondering if he would have used just the Disk Utility to repair (or DiskWarrior) the disk, it could have been repaired (or at least the files saved)? .. the hard disk ended up being replaced ..

MacMuppet · #10 May 19th, 2004, 11:50 AM

I would have used Diskwarrior first, personally.

Just how good do you guys reckon you have to be to be an Apple Store dude? I'm applying for Mac Specialist at the new London store, and don't really know if I have a hope in hell.
I'm assuming they get paid a bit more than your average retail monkey, but of course if I ask I won't even get an interview as they want real Mac fanboys (me) who would kill to work for Apple in any capacity (also me) regardless of the pay - but living in London I can't take much of a pay-cut or I'll be homeless - anyway, I thought I'd apply and see what happens.

I've been in IT for about 6-7 years now, Mac and PC support for the last 4. I switched (at home) as soon as 10.1 came out, and am getting pretty good at OS X and know enough to solve most OS 9 problems.
Nothing brings me greater joy than the look of awe when you show someone Panther. Give me half and hour and I could make Bill Gates Switch. Going from the job descriptions at apple.com/uk/retail the 'Mac Specialist' sounds more like me than the 'Mac Genius' - if only because of the examples they give; right now I could replace a Hard Drive in my sleep but as for a casual conversation about Digital Video, I'd need more exposure to relevant Apps.

Are they likely to say no just because I've never used Final Cut of any description? Surely the enthusiam's the thing, though, as if I was an absolute Pro at everything then theres no way they could pay me half as much as I could earn elsewhere in support or just as an operator of some kind....

What do you guys think? Does anyone know any Apple Store people, and how good are they?

**Giaguara** · #11 May 19th, 2004, 12:05 PM

I can't say for political reasons much about this now. (Yes, and .. most are still people.)

We didn't have Disk Warrior. If we had, we'd have tried that - if the CD worked.

Apple UK uses external agencies to find staff. There are thousands of applications, pretty sure. Good luck is probably the best I can do / say. You are not the only one who has applied to those positions from this board either.

MacMuppet · #12 May 19th, 2004, 12:11 PM

Yeah might as well just wait and see. I'm unlikely to be shortlisted though as I'm only applying just now, they must have thousands of applications by now.
Well, if you don't ask you don't get, as my dear old mother would say....

Randman · #13 May 19th, 2004, 12:17 PM

Make a complaint to the manager. And next time, don't automatically assume the person knows what he or she is talking about (they're trying to make a sale) and read the cover. If you have an iTrip cover that says 3rd gen iPod (with dock connector) and an iTrip cover that says for 1st and 2nd gen iPods (without dock connectors), then simply purchase the one that fits your iPod.
It's one thing to complain (rightly) about poor service, but to actually say the store person was stupid when you yourself didn't know, is a bit extreme.

Langley · #14 May 23rd, 2004, 12:39 AM

Jeeez, there are so many products and specs out there I don't blame some sales ppl getting it wrong (I'm in sales).

Firstly do your own research first to check if it will work (it saves everyone time). It's 'well' documented on the net.

Secondly sales ppl are human they make mistakes (does not mean it's right to get it wrong)....get a return or exchange and get over it.

Thirdly and most of all...'did YOU stuff up in your job this week?'

Ppl expect sales ppl to know everything....make it a Uni degree, pay them accordingly and then you can complain.

MacMuppet · #15 May 25th, 2004, 10:55 AM

Man's got a point. Its the age old thing of the things you spend most money on are sold to you by a person who isnt paid enough to care.
Take holidays. You can only afford one a year, maybe two. Its the highlight of your year (or at least for some people, I haven't gone on holiday for 9 years) but do you know what travel agennts are paid? My first job was a travel agent, full time, £6k a year.

Brings us back to the question - how much are apple store employess paid?
I know its not exactly the same as you have to be a bit of an enthusiast to even get a job there, and I doubt anyone deliberately wants to provide a bad service as they love what they are selling and want people to not only be happy but impressed.
One would hope they are paid a bit more as a certain amount of techical knowledge and the whole 'representing the company' thing are important to Apple - its not like working in Tandy or Radio Shack is it?

brianleahy · #16 May 25th, 2004, 11:11 AM

I think a distinction needs to be made here: it is one thing if the employees don't know about the products and admit that they don't know. It is something ENTIRELY different if they profess to know about a product, and give information that is diametrically wrong.

Certainly, mistakes can and do happen sometimes, but the store should certainly grant a refund without argument if the purchase is made based on bad advice from an employee (033 didn't mention whether he got a refund from the Apple Store...?)

Whether it's due to store policy or apathy on the part of the sales people, employees should not give customers 'invented' or 'guessed' advice. I have far more confidence and respect for people who admit when they don't know something than those who make things up.