OS X Tiger?

[Anim8r]

I would suggest everyone use the pro edition since home is a feeble, hobbled OS.
My wife's machine runs home... it has the most problems of any of the machines in our house (8 at the moment, and that includes an old OS9 iMac), from networking to app starting up to restarts to just up and quitting stuff for no reason.

I am going to upgrade her to pro when I get the chance, but she has already said her next personal machine will be a Mac. Sigh... I love my wife!

OH! And when I bought XP Pro from Circuit City a while back I bought the full version (DUH!), and it was $299 retail. I know, I know... but I really needed it fast.

Originally Posted by nmm88

Just another clarification:
Windows XP UPGRADE can be found for $90 dollars on Amazon. First we started at 400, then 199. So it could actually be said thta it is cheaper, as they offer an upgrade. The full version is 199. That is for the Home Edition and not the pro, but for most people there is no need for the pro edition. Im not saying that it is better because of that, it certainly isnt.

First of all, I agree that apple does seem to release OS's much faster than Microsoft. That is usually a great thing because we are constantly getting new features, and only need to pay for the upgrade if we need it.

But I have also noticed many software programs that only support panther for some feature or another etc. I think apple needs to do a better job of making sure that they dont leave people in the dust or force them to pay for an upgrade. All new programs should at least support panther, and tiger should be an extra.

In the end we all just need to realize that Apple is a computer company, and as all companies do, they are going to try to make money. If you need to upgrade because some key feature of your OS now wont work then you'll have to upgrade. Thats how it goes in the computer business.

[nmm88]

Okay, but to be fair:
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
Date first available at Amazon: August 24, 2001

What did it cost on August 24, 2001? And why haven't they updated it in the last 3 years?

Ya, im sure it cost a lot more back then. Point Taken. I was just stating that now you can get XP for 90, and not 400 as was stated. However, you can also find Jaguar for around 30 bucks on eBay. We need to be careful in not using false figures to promote OS X, its got enough power and innovation to promote itself.

I would suggest everyone use the pro edition since home is a feeble, hobbled OS.

Home may not have as many features as Pro, but it is not feeble or hobbled. In my experience with both, they do not have any noticable difference. Of course hardware is probably the main factor

[nojay]

Originally Posted by bobbo

i got os x for my imac G3 when it first came out. Then, Jaguar was released a few months later. I was annoyed but thought it would be ok to still run 10.1. However then when all of Apple's software and plugins would only run on 10.2 Jaguar I felt cheated almost. I ended up getting 10.2, and now 10.3. I just received an iBook G4 and I know I'll soon be finding myself needing to get Tiger. I'm glad I have a University connection so I can get it for $50.

I don't claim to be a historian on all things Apple, but it should be understood that OS X represented a completely revolutionary rebuild of the Mac OS. It was 4+ years in the making. Version 10.0 really amounted to a public beta of OS X. And version 10.1 was a free upgrade, but not with the polish of Jag and Panther (which you had to pay for). The above scenario was really the only really unfortunate one I see -- getting the somewhat flaky Cheetah at the end of the product cycle and having to pay to upgrade.

OS X is now a mature product. Software Updates allow us to continually compute on a stable and secure platform. If Tiger has any benefits for those of you out there, then so be it -- shell out the funds to get the latest and greatest. My iMac came preloaded with 10.2, but with installation discs for 10.3 in the box. I would probably have paid (using a teacher's discount -- I am a college faculty) for 10.3 had it not been included, for the improved Windows networking on my home LAN. I might find that Tiger has no additional benefit for me and I'll happily stick with Panther. Like other posters on this thread, I may not "need" to upgrade.

I can't imagine 10.2 - 10.3 becoming obsolete or nonsupported in the near future because they really are so fully developed.

[guilly]

Originally Posted by bobbo

i got os x for my imac G3 when it first came out. Then, Jaguar was released a few months later. I was annoyed but thought it would be ok to still run 10.1. However then when all of Apple's software and plugins would only run on 10.2 Jaguar I felt cheated almost. I ended up getting 10.2, and now 10.3. I just received an iBook G4 and I know I'll soon be finding myself needing to get Tiger. I'm glad I have a University connection so I can get it for $50.

This is the sort of thing I'm referring to. It is not a matter of being poor or rich (at the beginning of this thread which I opened, I clearly stated that my economy is "healthy" (wealthy)).

It is a matter of feeling cheated.

When I bought my iBook, 2-3 months later came Jaguar with no update price whatsoever. And not much later came all those updates which demanded Jaguar.

Now I just bought my PowerBook G4 with Panther, and I'm pretty sure Apple will do it again. Bets are opened?

[guilly]

Originally Posted by nojay

I can't imagine 10.2 - 10.3 becoming obsolete or nonsupported in the near future because they really are so fully developed.

I really really hope you are right. However 10.2 should have been a free upgrade if 10.1 was considered a pre-release or something similar.

I can't help feeling distrustful towards Apple software policy. Their software are of the best quality, but somehow I feel like if they were radically profiting from Mac users fidelity.

[soulseek]

first of all, noone knows anythin bout Tiger.

apple is doin a great job at keepin EVERYTHIN and everyone silent!!!

the rumour sites dont get anythin right.

any speculation that comes out to be true, is made 1 or 2 days before the anouncement of the product.

so.. NO .. nobody knows anythin bout tiger...


what i have said before and insist on it is OSX upgrades.(meanin price)
ive upgraded to Jaguar and Panther, and will immediately upgrade to Tiger.
but havin paid that much money,it would be nice to get a discount for my next upgrade!!!

id also like to mention bout OS support.
some ppl get worried that apple will stop supportin their OS just because theres a new one out. thats wrong. since jaguar apple , with every update is supporting jaguar! for example if theres a security update, its also made available for jaguar.

on the other hand, new features are not available for older systems for 2 mutual reasons; the OS does not have the technology to support new features and at the same time Apple wants u to upgrade to the newer OS, easier for them and more money for them....

but ppl dont worry, ur older OS wont be abandoned,it just wont get newer features!

[nmm88]

Originally Posted by guilly

I really really hope you are right. However 10.2 should have been a free upgrade if 10.1 was considered a pre-release or something similar.

I can't help feeling distrustful towards Apple software policy. Their software are of the best quality, but somehow I feel like if they were radically profiting from Mac users fidelity.

No, 10.0 was considered a pre release. 10.1 was closer to being finished and came out later and was offered for free. The reason many things were unsupported with 10.1 and before was because they were still rough around the edges. 10.2 is kind of considered the finished product of OS X. I dont know too many apps that dont support 10.2, so i doubt apple will make it so with the 10.3 to 10.4 switch.

[ged3000]

Originally Posted by guilly

I really really hope you are right. However 10.2 should have been a free upgrade if 10.1 was considered a pre-release or something similar.

We bought our iMac a coupla months before X.2 was released and came with X.1 installed on it.

When X.2 was released, Apple did an amnesty for people who had bought hardware recently, and sent out x.2 upgrade disks to them, if they claimed it by sticking their firmware number and date of purchase into a form on their webpage.

I dont know if they did this for X.3, or if theyll do it for X.4, (we havnt bought any hardware in a coupla years, and were still running X.2.8) but this kind of action shows loyalty to recent buyers of hardware...

We just scraped into the deal though...