'Old' Apple 1 GHZ PB G4 17 inch BLASTS Sony's Vaio 1,7 GHZ 17 inch AWAY !

[hulkaros]

Well, I bet that I can make that Wintel fly too! Especially, with a Linux in and Windows out

Still, this "opinion" should not be judged... It is an opinion and not a "review"! And as we all know(?) opinion are like bottoms: Everyone has one!

[Viro]

Originally Posted by hulkaros

Well, I bet that I can make that Wintel fly too!

Yeah, especially out the window

[cigar]

"fryke" wrote:
cigar: Get a grip. You're posting your 'review' as a new thread and already defend your opinion before anyone here attacked it. Doesn't _that_ show you that something's wrong? The Sony taking 40 seconds or more to load a website that another computer takes 5 seconds for shows me (and I've supported many Macs and PCs in the past and present) that the PC is looking for a proxy server. Just believe me: In 90% of the cases where IE on a PC takes a long while before showing a page (or part of it), the browser is looking for automatic proxy settings, which is the default setting, but many ISPs just don't provide such an automatic proxy server setting. That's not opinion, that's experience talking.

Did i mention that that matter.Did i mention because of that the Sony already had a disadvantage as you would call it ( for looking for a proxy server blabla- like i didn't know that -) and therefore makes my 'review'/opinion les valid? No.So what's the point.That is again trying to add your average "industry standards"fansites- review rules on the way i see a opinion/review.
Do i need to strip down the PC first cause of some "socalled fansites industry standard rules before i do a test against a Mac? Hellooo....Like you have to have a degree in cooking to give your review/opinion on how a dish tastes because some think one should take "this" or "that" into consideration because of.....whatever.That is simply not the point.
What matters was that in this simple test i did, i experienced these slow matters on the Sony notebook wich says more then enough.

I'm sure you _liked_ seeing your PowerBook win, and I'm happy you're happy with Apple. But your review is, to use your own language, BS.

Good... that's your opinion.nevertheless it doesn't makes it less valid.

And while we're at 'your language': Watch it, please. We have very strict rules regarding the use of profanity in posts...

Strict rules shouldn't be there to have people temper their way of expression.I am direct and straightforward. Bullshit is NOT a 'wrong word or even harsh like "moron/asshole/idiot". Or am i now landed on laura ashley forum with christian sunday prayers saying members where one has to say only sweet and politicial correct words to stay a member?
Please let me know cause this is a the www.

[Viro]

Originally Posted by cigar

Did i mention that that matter.Did i mention because of that the Sony already had a disadvantage as you would call it ( for looking for a proxy server blabla- like i didn't know that -) and therefore makes my 'review'/opinion les valid? No.So what's the point.That is again trying to add your average "industry standards"fansites- review rules on the way i see a opinion/review.
Do i need to strip down the PC first cause of some "socalled fansites industry standard rules before i do a test against a Mac? Hellooo....Like you have to have a degree in cooking to give your review/opinion on how a dish tastes because some think one should take "this" or "that" into consideration because of.....whatever.That is simply not the point.
What matters was that in this simple test i did, i experienced these slow matters on the Sony notebook wich says more then enough.

Cooking is a subjective thing. Performance is not. While there are metrics for measuring performance, there aren't any for measuring taste. Most reviewers have to strive for objectivity and any reviewer knows that when faced with such results that are phenomenally good, normally something is wrong. Steps are then taken to analyse the results to determine why this is the case.

Mac users already have a bad name due to the fanaticism of some. Such a 'review' doesn't help any. Based on your opinion piece, the Vaio would have a performance that is 10x poorer than the Powerbook. The performance of the Vaio is no where near that bad in real life. No, browsing the web on a poorly configured browser is not real life. Even if it was, it isn't representative of performance in other applications.

This isn't a jab at you since you probably don't do reviews for a living, or work in a scientific area. But please take the criticism of your 'benchmark' in a constructive way. But the "socalled fansites industry standard rules" you are so critical off aren't rules per se, rather commonly accepted methods for benchmarking and are there because people know what they're benchmarking.

[cigar]

Viro thanks for your reply and i do understand what you are saying but i hope you understood that i see no valid reason to use those "common rules' set by certain folks who feel the need to use that on every personal review of certain experiences set by anyone therefore calling every personal review invalid or whatever just because it is not done the way the pro's do.
Let's put it plainly: If i wanna buy a new computer i read reviews as a simple opinion of a person.I never take it as the truth or something wich should influence directly my personal opinion.I read and keep it as the little voice in the back of my head when i 'm going for the sale.
It is almost saying to someone whois having a complaint:
" because your complain doesn't add up to certain rules we set for that, it is not a complaint "
Unjustified and demonising the other's complaint