Totally uninspired by Tiger

[Lt Major Burns]

when is video going to be addressed properly? i thought it was going to be in tiger, until i realised it blatantly wasn't going to happen - quicktime 7? h.264 bullsh*t. itunes can sort and play digital music better than anything else on the planet - kicks windows media until it can't get up. iphoto makes Windows' "photo contextual" folders look primitive and half arsed (and wins awards because of it), but for video, we get a program that is only better than windows media player 7 years ago because of some codecs.

quicktime's only saving grace is that its "compatible". which with tiger stops anyway. i hate quicktime - always have. when is iMove going to be a full video library, with organising, tagging (meta data for spotlight, remember), searching and the best thing about itunes/iphoto, the distancing from the actual files and folders.

instead, iMovie is a sandbox video editor. great. i don't have a video camera. i do, however, have about 200 miscellaneous mpegs. plus i'd like to put my dvd collection on my mac, so i don't have to get up to change bloody movies. what itunes did for my cd collection (getting dusty, i fear) and what iphoto did for photo albums, iMovie/Video? should do for video. i can't be the only one that thinks this is an area where [for once] macs are at least 7 years behind everyone else.

this is related to the thread.... it's my tiger disapointment

[fryke]

iPhoto takes videos, btw. Maybe that slipped under your radar... And iTunes as well as iPhoto and iMovie are part of iLife, not Panther or Tiger. So your gripe's really with iLife '05, not Tiger...

[Lt Major Burns]

yeah, i know.... the video support in iPhoto, thats only in iLife 05 right? (i have 4). how good is it? i mean can it manage and play a range of formats? (full range?)

and it still seems as though it's still an undernourished part of iLife. IMO

[aicul]

An OS is an os to me. After a while you tend to settle down with the half a dozen things you really use regularly. These of course vary person to person.

What I did notice was that Panther only had one sexy addition, Expose, and I eventually ended up NOT using it.

To me it seems that Tiger has more extras to show then Panther did. So I'll soon see what enters my day-to-day routine.

[tumbleguts]

I think I am slightly uninspired by Tiger...

And the reason...
I think I'm still in love with Panther!
My entry into the mac world was 8.6.
(Everyone told me how much better it was than OS 7...)
But then I had a hard time under OS 9.
For some it worked out - for me it was a struggle.
Jaguar? Don't make me laugh...
(slow, full of bugs, and endless revolving beachballs!)

Panther, on the other hand - ROCKED MY WORLD!
On my G4 it was almost twice as fast as Jaguar.
And since I've had it - it's been bliss.
This is the best OS platform I've ever had.
Sure, initially I hated the way OS X looked.
I thought Macs were starting to look too much like Windows.
But then productivity increased and I started to appreciate the intuitive layout.
Things just worked...

So, now comes along Tiger.
And there is nothing much there to bait me with.
So - what's the point...
I guess in some ways I'm right!!!
Panther was (is) fantastic - and apart from a few little new niffty programs - there isn't a lot of difference in Tiger.

So I say, lets stick with the black cat (for now).
At least it's lucky...

[thendis]

As I understand it Tiger introduces a free Screen Reader, "voice over".

If this does everything a screen reader like JAWS can, then I think that alone is enough to make Tiger a milestone release. Stand-alone screen-readers cost $1000+ on their own, and being Apple you just know it will blow the rest out of the water. Plus, I don't think there are any screen readers for OS X at the moment, so there are millions of people being excluded at the moment.

However, looking at their site (http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/) it doesn't mention anything about Web browsing capabilities. So perhaps it's juts a screen reader for the OS itself and not a full-functional screen reader. If that is so, then it's nothing very special at all. Can anyone tell me for sure if you can browse the Net with VoiceOver?

[fryke]

It works fine in Safari. Have to activate "read under mouse" or something. And then have to move to each _line_ it seems. Had to turn it off immediately though. Can't have my Mac talk all the time.

[thendis]

but does it have the same level of functionality as JAWS etc? 'read under mouse' sounds like it just reads whatever you point it at...pretty useless if you can't see the cursor to begin with. I mean, do you think you could (reletively) easily turn on a mac and surf the web if you were completely blind using VoiceOver?