Apple or Windows? Which is better?

[kubbie]

I am glad to get home and kiss my Mac. The best thing I feel about the mac is its ease of use. Yeah windows has drag and drop however not to the extend mac does. You can not only drag and drop files into folders, you can drag and drop info from one application to another, surfing the web you can select text/pics/etc.. then drag it to the desktp or folder and viola its saves there. Copy and Paste are a thing of the past.

In Mac Os X the animations, user feedback and stability are fantastic. The only way (and trust me I have tried) to crash Mac Os X is to throw it our the window, literally.

What makes Macs or Apple better than windows is the quality apple puts into its designs and the functionality they place in thier products. Even thou there is no such thing as a bug proof software, the base on which Apple has built thier software and products doesn't lend them to problems as those whose systems are built or hashed upon age old technologies or methods.

Apple products my seem a bit more at first compared to discount PC manufacters, compared to the overall ownership expense of each machine.... Apple comes out ahead. no upgrades or equipment needed just software. I bought an iMac and the only things I bought for it were a Digital camera and DV Camcorder.

I love being able to sit here and think if it should be like this, then chances are it's done in that fashion. The windoze machine at work drives me nuts, I wish I could bring in my Mac and get things done a hell of a lot faster!

that just my opinion.

[contoursvt]

Kubbie, I dont want to sound negative towards your post but I dont think you've used windows in a while. Maybe 95/98 was the last?

Drag and drop works fine in windows. I just went into IE, opened up google, dragged the google logo on the desktop which saved it as an image. I opened word and dragged the google image directly from the browser into word or I could drag from the desktop into word. I opened up photoshop 6.0 and dragged the google logo directly from the browser into a new document. I tried dragging the image from word to photoshop and it works fine. So far I've been able to drag anything anywhere.

I can drag a picture into the photoshop shortcut on my desktop and it opens up with the image or with IE I can do the same. I can drag word docs directly to the application to open it. I can even do something that OSX cannot do out of the box. I can drag an item INTO another FTP site - its not read only

Also dual G5 is MUCH MUCH more than a bargain basement computer, not just a little. For example, I built and ordered a dual 3Ghz Xeon workstation with 2gig RAM, X800XT, SCSI drives (3 of them), U160 controller, Dual DVD 16x burners, Maudio soundcard for less than the base price of a dual g5 system with way less ram, much less video power, lesser sound, slower drives..less expandable tower case. The only thing I can say is that the G5 is pretty.

As for stability, I really cant comment as my old B&W G3 tends to run quirky with OSX so thats not fair to compare and the G4 and G5 boxes at work are more unstable than our PC's but I think thats because the designers who use them dont know what they are doing! We have Velocity video stations which are running dual xeons and they have been fairly stable but in fairness, not too much better than the G5's for stability (they run XP). I'd say both are even for stability in the right hands.

Is for speed, I'll put this dual 3Ghz Xeon against any dual 2.5 G5. Obviously each has its strong point but I think its easily on par for most apps and multimedia.

[kubbie]

Well you have to ask your self...why is M$ running their latest XBox 360 on Mac G5s?

huh?

[contoursvt]

Um...its not running on a Mac G5. Its running on a multicore PowerPC chip that has nothing to do with Apple so your xbox statement is really meaningless. Guess you had nothing else to come up with.

http://lowendmac.com/musings/05/0513.html

[Convert]

Originally Posted by contoursvt

Um...its not running on a Mac G5. Its running on a multicore PowerPC chip that has nothing to do with Apple so your xbox statement is really meaningless. Guess you had nothing else to come up with.

http://lowendmac.com/musings/05/0513.html

IGN's article about Xbox 360 demo running on a Powermac 'Alpha kit'.

Anandtech's article about the Xbox 360 demo running on a Powermac.

Both include images.

The alpha kits were used because they had a similar processor setup.

Oh, and your link, about IBM making a 3.2Ghz processor for MS but not for Apple... it's a gaming machine. It has a lot less to do. You wouldn't see that speed on a Powermac as of now, it has so much more to do. But the Xbox 360 doesn't, so it can have a bigger processor and get away with it.

[contoursvt]

Hi convert, maybe i'm still missing the point. What does a game console have to do with anything though? I posted the above link to show that the console's processor has nothing to do with the current G5 (as the previous poster had made a comment to warrant my link). The links you sent me basically show the same. They may be able to develope for the new xbox on a G5b but its much slower because the processors are much weaker as is the video hardware so.... so I dont really follow why you sent me those links. I already know the hardware is not the same.

[Convert]

Originally Posted by contoursvt

Hi convert, maybe i'm still missing the point. What does a game console have to do with anything though? I posted the above link to show that the console's processor has nothing to do with the current G5 (as the previous poster had made a comment to warrant my link). The links you sent me basically show the same. They may be able to develope for the new xbox on a G5b but its much slower because the processors are much weaker as is the video hardware so.... so I dont really follow why you sent me those links. I already know the hardware is not the same.

Sorry, I'm just replying to your previous post (that was replying to the post before that about the XBox).

You said that the Xbox 360 demos weren't being run on Macs. They were.

I see where we're getting confused here. I think kubbie meant the Xbox 360s at E3 were 'running on macs' (but were just macs, in fact). Of course, the console itself, while PPC, isn't anywhere near a Mac.

[contoursvt]

I see, sorry, I missunderstood as well Ok I thought he meant that the final Xbox360 was a G5 - see helps if I read carefully next time