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Old September 12th, 2003, 02:08 AM
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well, now that we've once more figured out that macosx.com is not the cause of yet another of the world's biggest, most pressing problems, i wish you luck on getting it worked out.
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Old September 12th, 2003, 02:10 AM
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LOL!

Don't worry, I'll find something wrong with MacOSX.com yet!
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Old September 12th, 2003, 04:43 AM
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Me! Just kidding...

FYI, Comcast is reputable around dese parts for providing flaky (cable) service and poor tech support, so it doesn't surprise me that they're pulling Microsoft-like tactics regarding Spam Assassin.
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Old September 12th, 2003, 08:32 AM
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I have Comcast and get the following from MacOSX.com starting today;

Delivered-To: 24-bobw@macosx.com
Date: 12 Sep 2003 12:00:02 -0000
To: bobw@macosx.com
Subject: MACOSX.COM Email Edition
From: MACOSX.COM <webmaster@macosx.com>
Reply-To: <webmaster@macosx.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-98.0 required=5.0
tests=CLICK_BELOW,HTML_30_40,HTML_LINK_CLICK_HERE,HTML_MESSAGE,
MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,USER_IN_WHITELIST
version=2.55
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp)

bobw,

Your MACOSX.COM Email Edition covers new and active topics in the last 16 hours.


I have 4 other email accounts I use regularly and don't get this, not even on Comcast's email account, so it must be coming from MacOSX.com.

As for Comcast being flaky, I haven't seen that in the 1½ I've had it, and the two times I had to call their support, it was very good and they knew Macs.

Ed Sounds like Scott instituted something new and we haven't been told about it yet.
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Old September 12th, 2003, 09:32 AM
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Once again, no "To:" Field. If there's NO TO, how does it FIND me? What is going on here?
Just a technical note here on the way email is delivered. The To: field is only used on the sending side and not for delivery. Basically the sending mailer uses the To: field to figure out what to write on the outside of the envelope that gets sent. Then when it gets to your mailbox the mail server on your machine takes it out of the envelope and sticks it in your mailbox for you to read. It works this way so that stuff like CC: and BCC: and multiple reciepients can work.

To hide their identity spammers are just like low grade junk mailers. It is easier to write a generic letter make copies and then write different names on the envelopes.

Looking at the messages you have had marked as spam I would have to say that they look like spam to me! Now if you look at the last message that bobw posted you will see that there is a valid To: and From: field, it is that personal touch that makes all the difference.

So if you really want to vent your bile you can go after the people at vintagegamer and macadict for improperly generating the email they are sending you. If they sent conformant email it would get through

Well vintagegamer may not still make it through since it looks like you have put them on your blacklist. If you read your email through a web interface sometimes there is a button which says something like "I don't ever want mail from these guys!" might you or someone using your account have clicked that on accident?


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Old September 12th, 2003, 10:18 AM
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For me everything seems to work fine with the macosx.com mail, at least [another provider] has not forced the Spam Assassin yet.
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There can be no address in the To: field if all messages are BCC'd, or blind carbon copied (of course, this has nothing to do with Mac OS X's Carbon API's... ).
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ok, i just got one with the spam assassin deal. not a macosx.com notification (which i enabled just to check this out), but one of those "i'm the son of a dead thief and we've got $50,000,000 that we just need your help getting out of a bank" pos emails.


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