Donation Drive

[Randman]

See Scott, once again, you just don't get it.
People are not complaining about donating and helping the site. They're complaining about the manner in which you did it. A manner that seems heavy-handed. So, instead of following your usual tack, consider it feedback for the next time out.

It should say something that people who signed up in 2001 and 2002 and whatnot have issues, but people who signed up just last month as trying to defend this practice. So, instead of reacting with your usual taunts, take it as constructive criticism. It'll do you and this forum a whole lotta good.

[ScottW]

Hockey... sometimes it's hard to hear good thing among the complaints. I'd rather people just say, thanks for the site, than tell me they don't have money. Saying "I don't have money", although thruthful and conveys a message, it is negative. By saying, "Thanks for the site, keep up the good work" is a positive message.

I *HATED* any type of on-air fundraising, radio or TV when I was younger. I despised when my favorite station, spent a week screwing up normal programming to raise donations. Of course, I did NOT donate, I turned to a different station and went on with life until the got done.

I then had the opportunity to WORK at that station, none-the-less and participated in the fund drives and saw that behind the scenes, it takes thousands upon thousands of dollars a month just for electricity for fire up a 100,000 watt FM transmitter. I know that everyone ran on the bare essentials in pay (minimum wage) and that the equipment in the station was old and so-so.

I had a new appreciation for sites that require donations and people who do. I now gladly give money, not out of guilt, shame... but beause I get something in return. If I can't give, I will say, keep up the good work!

I hate asking for funds... I wish that it grew on trees in my back yard and I wouldn't have to worry about it. I wish that Google Ads paid more than 10-30 cents per day to run on my site, but do the math, that isn't a whole lot. I wish there was a market like their was in 1998-1999 for banner ads.

We are NOT a big site, compared to other Mac sites. We don't have the marketing power to drive a banner driven site. We don't have the financial power to promote ourselves. But, one thing is for sure... we continue to upgrade the servers to bring a better experience, get more bandwidth to help with the same thing, and try and provide a nice clean site for everyone to enjoy.

[ScottW]

Randman,

Actually, I do get it. But what you and others who complain about the "manner" don't get, even when the facts are presented in front of you, that it is the ONLY manner that accomplishes a given goal. So, come 2006, we will have a repeat performance of this very discussion.

[Randman]

I haven't complained. I just said you should take comments, good and bad, with a grain of salt.

[g/re/p]

Hey - i guess i was being a jerk again - sorry about that.
I probably will donate to the site sometime in the near
future - but i still think the shutdown thing was kind of rude(hehe)

BTW - this is a very good mac site, and i do appreciate
its presense on the 'net!

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[bobw]

Wow, and thanks.