What Changed You???

**Lt Major Burns** · January 31st, 2006, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Amie

Microsoft's design-it-and-hurry-up-and-get-it-on-the-market-don't-worry-about-perfecting-it attitude.

this has flipped of late. look at mac OS X, it was released (10.0) far too early, and wasn't ready. even 10.3 and 104 weren't ready when they were shipped, the emphasis was on getting it out on time. anyone who has spent much time with 10.3.0 or 10.4.0 will tell you that it's just buggy.

in comparison, Windows Vista has been constantly delayed (it was first schduled for 2003/4), because there seems to be a real sense of wanting to get it out only when it's ready. the sides have almost flipped, it would seem...

**Amie** · January 31st, 2006, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Lt Major Burns

this has flipped of late. look at mac OS X, it was released (10.0) far too early, and wasn't ready. even 10.3 and 104 weren't ready when they were shipped, the emphasis was on getting it out on time. anyone who has spent much time with 10.3.0 or 10.4.0 will tell you that it's just buggy.

That's why my chosen OS is 10.3.9. I've spent a lot of time with different Mac OSs, and 10.3.9 is by far the most perfect OS I've dealt with. This is, of course, my opinion through firsthand experience. I'm sure there are others who would agree with me, and others who would disagree. That's what opinions are all about.

Originally Posted by Lt Major Burns

in comparison, Windows Vista has been constantly delayed (it was first schduled for 2003/4), because there seems to be a real sense of wanting to get it out only when it's ready. the sides have almost flipped, it would seem...

The Windows OS in general just makes me shudder. Never again. Waaaaay too many problems and nightmares. No, thanks. Not going back. I'll stick to my trusty Mac.

**powermac** · February 1st, 2006, 04:19 AM

Certainly, many bug issues in a OS release can be worked out before a release. No matter what, most bugs are going to be detected when the OS hits the masses. In case of Microsoft, there job is much more complex, since they have to consider many hardware configurations. I am not convinced that Microsoft is taking its time to release Vista because its main motivate is to get it right, verses getting it to work.

**dmetzcher** · February 1st, 2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lt Major Burns

this has flipped of late. look at mac OS X, it was released (10.0) far too early, and wasn't ready. even 10.3 and 104 weren't ready when they were shipped, the emphasis was on getting it out on time. anyone who has spent much time with 10.3.0 or 10.4.0 will tell you that it's just buggy.

in comparison, Windows Vista has been constantly delayed (it was first schduled for 2003/4), because there seems to be a real sense of wanting to get it out only when it's ready. the sides have almost flipped, it would seem...

The thing that I will disagree with here in Microsoft's "constantly delayed" OS and the assumption that they want to get it right. Everything is ALWAYS delayed with MS. When they finally release something, it does not ever seem that they spent a great deal of time on it. Frankly, I think that things are always delayed because they spend so much time reverse-engineering other companys' products, not because they are working to get their own working properly. I'm not using this forum as a MS bashing chat room, but I see many things in Vista that have roots in three operating systems, and not just the Mac OS. That type of work takes time to complete, and taking that time does not mean that they are working out the kinks. Getting things to work is enough of a headache for them.

If only they could just steal the source code from other companies. Then, maybe, they'd be able to hit their ship dates and get things working right (or close to right) at the same time. Wouldn't that be nice?

Oh, but hey, they have one-upped the Mac OS with Vista. The icons are going to be 256x256, instead of 128x128. Oooooh. If that isn't a reason to switch back, I'm not sure what is. LOL!

**fryke** · February 1st, 2006, 11:47 AM

back to topic, please...

**Lt Major Burns** · February 1st, 2006, 01:58 PM

sorry. my bad.

**fryke** · February 1st, 2006, 06:40 PM

okay. apology accepted.

**Lt Major Burns** · February 1st, 2006, 08:12 PM

i notice a lot of deleted posts recently... is this the mods becoming more stringent? i'm not a big fan of post-deleting, i beleive forums should be about freedom of speech. be vocal about your distaste, and make people aware of their mistakes, but please don't delete posts.