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kuede - Jul 9, 2005 - 6:56 am
Hello
I experienced the same problem as in the following link:
http://www.macosx.com/content/faq.ph...n-Os-1028.html
I tryed everything described. Unfortunately I was'nt successful. After installing "ClassicStartup.app". from the installation disc1 and the 10.2.8 Combined update I get the following message by classic startup:
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
My Mac is a Dual 800 MHz PowerPC G4 with 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.2.8.
Do you have a solution? Thanks a lot for your help.
Kind regards from Switzerland
kuede
I experienced the same problem as in the following link:
http://www.macosx.com/content/faq.ph...n-Os-1028.html
I tryed everything described. Unfortunately I was'nt successful. After installing "ClassicStartup.app". from the installation disc1 and the 10.2.8 Combined update I get the following message by classic startup:
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
My Mac is a Dual 800 MHz PowerPC G4 with 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.2.8.
Do you have a solution? Thanks a lot for your help.
Kind regards from Switzerland
kuede
bicycle - Jul 9, 2005 - 5:23 pm
Hello, Kurt.
Q1: What version of OS 9 do you have installed?
Q2: Had Classic worked for you at some point in the past?
Here are a few things to try (trying to avoid suggestions that you've already pointed to.
A. Boot in OS 9 and use Software Update (a Control Panel) to update your OS 9.
B. Open Disk Utility, and under the 'File' menu select 'Fix OS 9 Permissions'. This will make sure the permissions are correct on your OS 9.x System Folder.
C. In the Classic System Preferences, Advanced tab, rebuild the Classic desktop.
Now try starting Classic again.
Please write back and let me know how this worked.
Best wishes,
Ed
Q1: What version of OS 9 do you have installed?
Q2: Had Classic worked for you at some point in the past?
Here are a few things to try (trying to avoid suggestions that you've already pointed to.
A. Boot in OS 9 and use Software Update (a Control Panel) to update your OS 9.
B. Open Disk Utility, and under the 'File' menu select 'Fix OS 9 Permissions'. This will make sure the permissions are correct on your OS 9.x System Folder.
C. In the Classic System Preferences, Advanced tab, rebuild the Classic desktop.
Now try starting Classic again.
Please write back and let me know how this worked.
Best wishes,
Ed
kuede - Jul 11, 2005 - 7:59 am
Hello Ed
Thanks very much for your assistance. Actually Classic OS 9.2.2 worked well until last friday when I started a classic program. I only use classic for a few programs and I’m allways booting with OSX 10.2.8. I didn’t experience any problems like this before.
I tried to follow your instructions. Booting with OS 9 didn’t work. So I copied a one year old system folder on the hard disk. With that one startup with OS 9.2.2 was successful. I also made the update as proposed.
Then I tried to fix the permissions (in my Disk Utility program I could’nt find "fix OS 9 Permissions“ there are only "Fix Volume Permissions“. So I fixed them.
I also rebuilt the desktop.
After that following new error message appeared by Classic Startup:
--- There are no localized Classic-specific resources to update the selected System folder "/Macintosh/Systemordner“ – Please select another system folder for Classic Preferences. ---
Do you have an idea, what could solve this problem? Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
Thanks very much for your assistance. Actually Classic OS 9.2.2 worked well until last friday when I started a classic program. I only use classic for a few programs and I’m allways booting with OSX 10.2.8. I didn’t experience any problems like this before.
I tried to follow your instructions. Booting with OS 9 didn’t work. So I copied a one year old system folder on the hard disk. With that one startup with OS 9.2.2 was successful. I also made the update as proposed.
Then I tried to fix the permissions (in my Disk Utility program I could’nt find "fix OS 9 Permissions“ there are only "Fix Volume Permissions“. So I fixed them.
I also rebuilt the desktop.
After that following new error message appeared by Classic Startup:
--- There are no localized Classic-specific resources to update the selected System folder "/Macintosh/Systemordner“ – Please select another system folder for Classic Preferences. ---
Do you have an idea, what could solve this problem? Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
bicycle - Jul 11, 2005 - 11:43 am
I think what happened is that perhaps now you have a raw OS 9 System Folder that has none of the files in it which OS X would have installed to enable it to be used to run classic. With this new System Folder, you could repeat these steps you had done earlier:
"After installing "ClassicStartup.app". from the installation disc1 and the 10.2.8 Combined update"
That might very well take care of it.
I'm not running Jaguar any longer, but in the File menu of my Disk Utility is "Repair OS 9 permissions", although it is greyed out bec. I don't have OS 9 installed.
Good Luck,
Ed
"After installing "ClassicStartup.app". from the installation disc1 and the 10.2.8 Combined update"
That might very well take care of it.
I'm not running Jaguar any longer, but in the File menu of my Disk Utility is "Repair OS 9 permissions", although it is greyed out bec. I don't have OS 9 installed.
Good Luck,
Ed
kuede - Jul 12, 2005 - 7:28 am
Hello Ed
Thank you very much for your answer. The system folder I copied on my harddisk was a well running backup version with all additions.
I made a new installtation of the "ClassicStartup.app" files. The error message changed again to the first one:
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
After that I made a clean OS9 install with no additions. I can boot with OS9 but in OSX it does'nt switch to classic. This clean system brings up the same message. I really don't know how fix the problem.
Do have have further ideas how to solve it.
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
Thank you very much for your answer. The system folder I copied on my harddisk was a well running backup version with all additions.
I made a new installtation of the "ClassicStartup.app" files. The error message changed again to the first one:
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
After that I made a clean OS9 install with no additions. I can boot with OS9 but in OSX it does'nt switch to classic. This clean system brings up the same message. I really don't know how fix the problem.
Do have have further ideas how to solve it.
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
bicycle - Jul 12, 2005 - 11:03 am
Hello, Kurt.
I have only the following to suggest. My favorite is #3.
1. I've communicated with someone with a working Classic, and the permissions on the System Folder are:
drwxr-xr-x 53 haar admin 1802 May 13 05:34 System Folder
and the permissions on the contents are:
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 708 Oct 7 1998 Advance.set
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Appearance
drwxr-xr-x 19 haar admin 646 Nov 8 2003 Apple Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 8 haar admin 272 Dec 12 2003 Application Support
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 230 Oct 7 1998 Beginner.set
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 8 2003 CMSCP
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 3027673 May 8 21:53 Classic
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 196869 May 8 21:53 Classic Support
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 253049 May 8 21:53 Classic Support UI
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 2575 Jul 12 09:51 Classic Update Log.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 52 May 13 05:32 Clipboard
drwxr-xr-x 103 haar admin 3502 Nov 8 2003 ColorSync Profiles
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Contextual Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 32 haar admin 1088 May 8 21:53 Control Panels
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Nov 8 2003 Control Panels (Disabled)
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 8 2003 Control Panels Disabled
drwxr-xr-x 21 haar admin 714 Nov 9 2003 Control Strip Modules
drwxr-xr-x 149 haar admin 5066 May 13 05:31 Extensions
drwxr-xr-x 18 haar admin 612 Nov 8 2003 Extensions (Disabled)
drwxr-xr-x 18 haar admin 612 Nov 8 2003 Extensions Disabled
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Jun 20 2003 Favorites
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 1914636 May 29 2001 Finder
drwxr-xr-x 69 haar admin 2346 Oct 28 2003 Fonts
drwxr-xr-x 6 haar admin 204 Oct 28 2003 Help
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Nov 9 2003 Internet Plug-Ins
drwxr-xr-x 11 haar admin 374 Jun 20 2003 Internet Search Sites
drwxr-xr-x 15 haar admin 510 Jun 20 2003 Language & Region Support
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Launcher Items
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Apr 3 2001 Login
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 2782462 Apr 17 2002 Mac OS ROM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Aug 26 1999 MacTCP DNR
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 647391 Apr 3 2001 Panels
drwxr-xr-x 75 haar admin 2550 May 13 05:33 Preferences
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jan 7 2004 PrintMonitor Documents
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Nov 21 1996 Scrapbook File
drwxr-xr-x 12 haar admin 408 Jun 24 2003 Scripting Additions
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Jun 20 2003 Scripts
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jun 20 2003 Servers
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jun 20 2003 Shutdown Items
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 9 2003 Startup Items
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 7193280 May 8 21:54 System
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Nov 15 2001 System Resources
drwxr-xr-x 17 haar admin 578 Jun 20 2003 Text Encodings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 545 May 13 05:34 VolumeNameIconPict
You can check to see if yours are the same by using the Terminal, navigating to the directory containing System Folder and typing
ls -al
and then
ls -al System\ Folder
If these permissions differ, then that could be the problem. Write back and we'll work on getting these. However, I leave to visit relatives tomorrow morning, so you will need to reply soon. Before I leave, I'll return your case to the main pool so that someone else can help.
2. Go the the Classic Pane of System Preferences and select the Advanced Tab. Now select "Turn Off Extensions" and then click on "Start Classic".
3. Now that you have a brand new System Folder, it is worthwhile going through all those steps in the thread which you linked to. Perhaps they'll work this time.
Good Luck. These 3 are really my last ideas. I'll return this to the pool if I've not heard back or if we can't resolve this by midnight Chicago USA time.
Ed
I have only the following to suggest. My favorite is #3.
1. I've communicated with someone with a working Classic, and the permissions on the System Folder are:
drwxr-xr-x 53 haar admin 1802 May 13 05:34 System Folder
and the permissions on the contents are:
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 708 Oct 7 1998 Advance.set
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Appearance
drwxr-xr-x 19 haar admin 646 Nov 8 2003 Apple Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 8 haar admin 272 Dec 12 2003 Application Support
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 230 Oct 7 1998 Beginner.set
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 8 2003 CMSCP
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 3027673 May 8 21:53 Classic
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 196869 May 8 21:53 Classic Support
-rw-rw-r-- 1 haar admin 253049 May 8 21:53 Classic Support UI
-rw-r--r-- 1 haar admin 2575 Jul 12 09:51 Classic Update Log.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 52 May 13 05:32 Clipboard
drwxr-xr-x 103 haar admin 3502 Nov 8 2003 ColorSync Profiles
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Contextual Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 32 haar admin 1088 May 8 21:53 Control Panels
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Nov 8 2003 Control Panels (Disabled)
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 8 2003 Control Panels Disabled
drwxr-xr-x 21 haar admin 714 Nov 9 2003 Control Strip Modules
drwxr-xr-x 149 haar admin 5066 May 13 05:31 Extensions
drwxr-xr-x 18 haar admin 612 Nov 8 2003 Extensions (Disabled)
drwxr-xr-x 18 haar admin 612 Nov 8 2003 Extensions Disabled
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Jun 20 2003 Favorites
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 1914636 May 29 2001 Finder
drwxr-xr-x 69 haar admin 2346 Oct 28 2003 Fonts
drwxr-xr-x 6 haar admin 204 Oct 28 2003 Help
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Nov 9 2003 Internet Plug-Ins
drwxr-xr-x 11 haar admin 374 Jun 20 2003 Internet Search Sites
drwxr-xr-x 15 haar admin 510 Jun 20 2003 Language & Region Support
drwxr-xr-x 5 haar admin 170 Jun 20 2003 Launcher Items
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Apr 3 2001 Login
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 2782462 Apr 17 2002 Mac OS ROM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Aug 26 1999 MacTCP DNR
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 647391 Apr 3 2001 Panels
drwxr-xr-x 75 haar admin 2550 May 13 05:33 Preferences
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jan 7 2004 PrintMonitor Documents
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Nov 21 1996 Scrapbook File
drwxr-xr-x 12 haar admin 408 Jun 24 2003 Scripting Additions
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Jun 20 2003 Scripts
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jun 20 2003 Servers
drwxr-xr-x 2 haar admin 68 Jun 20 2003 Shutdown Items
drwxr-xr-x 3 haar admin 102 Nov 9 2003 Startup Items
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 7193280 May 8 21:54 System
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 0 Nov 15 2001 System Resources
drwxr-xr-x 17 haar admin 578 Jun 20 2003 Text Encodings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 haar admin 545 May 13 05:34 VolumeNameIconPict
You can check to see if yours are the same by using the Terminal, navigating to the directory containing System Folder and typing
ls -al
and then
ls -al System\ Folder
If these permissions differ, then that could be the problem. Write back and we'll work on getting these. However, I leave to visit relatives tomorrow morning, so you will need to reply soon. Before I leave, I'll return your case to the main pool so that someone else can help.
2. Go the the Classic Pane of System Preferences and select the Advanced Tab. Now select "Turn Off Extensions" and then click on "Start Classic".
3. Now that you have a brand new System Folder, it is worthwhile going through all those steps in the thread which you linked to. Perhaps they'll work this time.
Good Luck. These 3 are really my last ideas. I'll return this to the pool if I've not heard back or if we can't resolve this by midnight Chicago USA time.
Ed
kuede - Jul 12, 2005 - 12:51 pm
Hello Ed
Glad to know your still working hard on my problem. I tried to get the permissions as proposed with the Terminal with following result:
Last login: Tue Jul 12 18:38:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[K-R-Computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 Jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 Jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 Jun 28 13:33 .CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 Jul 5 08:37 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 Jun 28 2003 .MCXLC
drwx------ 8 kurtraub staff 272 Jul 12 15:46 .Trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 Oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 Oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 Jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 Jun 28 2003 Adobe SVG 3.0 Installer Log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 Jul 12 17:57 Desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 Jun 22 15:28 Documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 Jul 8 19:05 Library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Nov 13 2004 Movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 Sep 16 2003 SMG
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 Sep 8 2003 Sites
[K-R-Computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al System\ Folder
ls: Folder: No such file or directory
ls: System : No such file or directory
Does the terminal not find it because I'm using a swiss-german system? Or is something really missing?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
Glad to know your still working hard on my problem. I tried to get the permissions as proposed with the Terminal with following result:
Last login: Tue Jul 12 18:38:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[K-R-Computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 Jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 Jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 Jun 28 13:33 .CFUserTextEncoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 Jul 5 08:37 .DS_Store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 Jun 28 2003 .MCXLC
drwx------ 8 kurtraub staff 272 Jul 12 15:46 .Trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 Oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 Oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 Jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 Jun 28 2003 Adobe SVG 3.0 Installer Log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 Jul 12 17:57 Desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 Jun 22 15:28 Documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 Jul 8 19:05 Library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Nov 13 2004 Movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 Sep 8 2003 Public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 Sep 16 2003 SMG
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 Sep 8 2003 Sites
[K-R-Computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al System\ Folder
ls: Folder: No such file or directory
ls: System : No such file or directory
Does the terminal not find it because I'm using a swiss-german system? Or is something really missing?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
bicycle - Jul 12, 2005 - 1:50 pm
Hi, Kurt.
Yes, that is probably the issue with Terminal giving you the permissions.
In the Finder, locate the OS 9 System Folder, whatever it is called for you. In a Terminal Window type
ls -al
followed by a space. Drop the System Folder on that Terminal window and hit Return. That will give you the permissions of items inside the System Folder.
Now type
cd ..
and hit Return. Now type
ls -al
and hit Return. That should give you the permissions on the System Folder (whatever its name is for you) itself. If they are the same as what I reported from a working 'Classic', then that is not the issue. If they are different, then we'll try to make them the same.
My thoughts, however, are that item #3 from the link you already followed with your original question, applied to the new OS 9 System, are more likely to work.
Best Wishes. I'll check back in a few hours.
Ed
Yes, that is probably the issue with Terminal giving you the permissions.
In the Finder, locate the OS 9 System Folder, whatever it is called for you. In a Terminal Window type
ls -al
followed by a space. Drop the System Folder on that Terminal window and hit Return. That will give you the permissions of items inside the System Folder.
Now type
cd ..
and hit Return. Now type
ls -al
and hit Return. That should give you the permissions on the System Folder (whatever its name is for you) itself. If they are the same as what I reported from a working 'Classic', then that is not the issue. If they are different, then we'll try to make them the same.
My thoughts, however, are that item #3 from the link you already followed with your original question, applied to the new OS 9 System, are more likely to work.
Best Wishes. I'll check back in a few hours.
Ed
kuede - Jul 12, 2005 - 2:32 pm
Hello ed
this is a real adventure!!! take a look at my log file:
last login: tue jul 12 20:14:55 on ttyp1
welcome to darwin!
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 jun 28 13:33 .cfusertextencoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 jul 5 08:37 .ds_store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 jun 28 2003 .mcxlc
drwx------ 2 kurtraub staff 68 jul 12 19:28 .trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 jun 28 2003 adobe svg 3.0 installer log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 jul 12 19:28 desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 jun 22 15:28 documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 jul 8 19:05 library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 nov 13 2004 movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 sep 16 2003 smg
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 sep 8 2003 sites
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% /system cd ..
/system: permission denied.
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub
i'm very confused about this as my osx works properly. this is the first time i realize that knowledge about the unix system would be helpful. . .
do you have an idea how to continue?
thanks a lot for spending your energy on this case.
kurt
this is a real adventure!!! take a look at my log file:
last login: tue jul 12 20:14:55 on ttyp1
welcome to darwin!
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 jun 28 13:33 .cfusertextencoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 jul 5 08:37 .ds_store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 jun 28 2003 .mcxlc
drwx------ 2 kurtraub staff 68 jul 12 19:28 .trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 jun 28 2003 adobe svg 3.0 installer log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 jul 12 19:28 desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 jun 22 15:28 documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 jul 8 19:05 library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 nov 13 2004 movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 sep 16 2003 smg
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 sep 8 2003 sites
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% /system cd ..
/system: permission denied.
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub
i'm very confused about this as my osx works properly. this is the first time i realize that knowledge about the unix system would be helpful. . .
do you have an idea how to continue?
thanks a lot for spending your energy on this case.
kurt
bicycle - Jul 12, 2005 - 2:36 pm
Hello, Kurt.
Those are the permissions on your home folder. They seem reasonable.
Try
cd /
and hit 'Return" and that should take you to the root directory. Type
ls -al
and hit 'Return' and send me the results of that.
Thanks for your patience.
Ed
Those are the permissions on your home folder. They seem reasonable.
Try
cd /
and hit 'Return" and that should take you to the root directory. Type
ls -al
and hit 'Return' and send me the results of that.
Thanks for your patience.
Ed
kuede - Jul 12, 2005 - 2:54 pm
Hello ed
here i am again. i hope it gives you an idea.
last login: tue jul 12 20:43:01 on ttyp1
welcome to darwin!
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 jun 28 13:33 .cfusertextencoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 jul 5 08:37 .ds_store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 jun 28 2003 .mcxlc
drwx------ 2 kurtraub staff 68 jul 12 19:28 .trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 jun 28 2003 adobe svg 3.0 installer log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 jul 12 19:28 desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 jun 22 15:28 documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 jul 8 19:05 library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 nov 13 2004 movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 sep 16 2003 smg
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 sep 8 2003 sites
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% /system
/system: permission denied.
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% cd /
[k-rs-computer:/] kurtraub% ls -al
total 26945
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 jul 12 19:28 .
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 jul 12 19:28 ..
-rwxrwxr-x 1 kurtraub admin 21508 jul 12 19:28 .ds_store
d-wx-wx-wx 2 root wheel 68 jul 8 10:33 .trashes
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 156 dec 3 2002 .hidden
dr--r--r-- 2 root wheel 128 jul 12 11:59 .vol
drwxr-xr-x 9 kurtraub unknown 306 sep 3 2002 adobe type utilities
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 jul 12 10:33 aktuelle informationen
drwxrwxr-x 85 root admin 2890 jul 12 12:04 applications
drwxr-xr-x 37 kurtraub unknown 1258 jul 12 10:34 applications (mac os 9)
drwxr-xr-x 46 kurtraub unknown 1564 jul 11 17:38 arbeiten_121102
drwxr-xr-x 104 kurtraub unknown 3536 sep 4 2003 bookmarks_expl
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 oct 8 2003 browser folder
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 jul 12 11:36 cleanup at startup
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 0 jan 1 1970 desktop
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 15 jul 12 19:28 desktop (mac os 9) -> /desktop folder
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 2514944 jul 12 12:04 desktop db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 4053666 jul 12 18:39 desktop df
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 jul 12 11:37 desktop folder
drwxr-xr-x 21 kurtraub unknown 714 jun 16 08:13 digibilder_div
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 jul 12 10:36 dokumente
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 19418 sep 4 2003 exportieren der kontakte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 21390 sep 4 2003 favoriten.html
drwxrwxr-x 37 root admin 1258 jan 16 2003 library
drwxr-xr-x 8 kurtraub unknown 272 jun 28 2003 liveupdate ordner
drwxr-xr-x 11 kurtraub unknown 374 sep 28 2004 logs
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 0 nov 10 2004 macintosh hd
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 nov 22 2003 microsoft
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 2437884 aug 28 2002 nscp_70_reviewers-guide-de.pdf
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 dec 3 2002 network
drwx---rwx 3 kurtraub nobody 102 nov 25 2003 network trash folder
drwxr-xr-x 10 kurtraub unknown 340 mar 29 2004 os_9_printer
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub admin 102 apr 26 2004 os_9_updates
drwxr-xr-x 16 kurtraub admin 544 jul 9 10:41 os_x_updates
-rwxrwxrwx 1 kurtraub staff 1216 feb 6 2004 office x 10.1.5 update log
-rwxrwxrwx 1 kurtraub staff 22218 oct 18 2004 office x 10.1.6-protokoll
drwxrwxr-x 3 kurtraub staff 102 jul 4 13:46 ordner "hp laserjet"
drwxrwxr-x 4 root admin 136 aug 20 2004 previous systems
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub admin 170 sep 16 2003 redrawclassic xt
drwxr-xr-x 37 kurtraub unknown 1258 may 18 10:20 schriften
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub admin 102 nov 25 2003 server
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 aug 12 2003 system
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 sep 29 2001 tastatur
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 jul 1 2003 thefindbycontentfolder
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 sep 3 2003 thevolumesettingsfolder
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 jul 12 11:56 trash
drwxrwxr-x 2 root admin 68 apr 13 2004 updaters
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 users
drwxrwxrwt 4 root wheel 136 jul 12 12:14 volumes
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 jun 27 2001 welcome to mac os x
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 142 jun 22 2001 _hidden
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 jul 12 20:49 automount
drwxr-xr-x 35 root wheel 1190 oct 8 2003 bin
drwxrwxrwt 5 root wheel 170 jul 8 10:33 cores
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 jul 12 11:59 dev
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 etc -> private/etc
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 65999 mar 11 13:16 go.php
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 9 jul 12 19:28 mach -> /mach.sym
-r--r--r-- 1 root admin 709440 jul 12 11:59 mach.sym
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3744576 sep 11 2003 mach_kernel
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 jul 12 11:59 private
drwxr-xr-x 60 root wheel 2040 jul 11 11:35 sbin
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 tmp -> private/tmp
drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 306 aug 12 2003 usr
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 var -> private/var
[k-rs-computer:/] kurtraub%
thanks very much for your professional assistance.
kurt
here i am again. i hope it gives you an idea.
last login: tue jul 12 20:43:01 on ttyp1
welcome to darwin!
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% ls -al
total 56
drwxr-xr-x 19 kurtraub staff 646 jul 5 08:37 .
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 3 jun 28 13:33 .cfusertextencoding
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub staff 6148 jul 5 08:37 .ds_store
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 jun 28 2003 .mcxlc
drwx------ 2 kurtraub staff 68 jul 12 19:28 .trash
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub staff 68 oct 21 2003 .java
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 oct 21 2003 .jpi_cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 25 jul 12 18:00 .lpoptions
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 6828 jun 28 2003 adobe svg 3.0 installer log
drwxr-xr-x 70 kurtraub staff 2380 jul 12 19:28 desktop
drwx------ 18 kurtraub staff 612 jun 22 15:28 documents
drwx------ 39 kurtraub staff 1326 jul 8 19:05 library
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 nov 13 2004 movies
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 music
drwx------ 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 pictures
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub staff 136 sep 8 2003 public
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 0 sep 16 2003 smg
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub staff 170 sep 8 2003 sites
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% /system
/system: permission denied.
[k-rs-computer:~] kurtraub% cd /
[k-rs-computer:/] kurtraub% ls -al
total 26945
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 jul 12 19:28 .
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 jul 12 19:28 ..
-rwxrwxr-x 1 kurtraub admin 21508 jul 12 19:28 .ds_store
d-wx-wx-wx 2 root wheel 68 jul 8 10:33 .trashes
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 156 dec 3 2002 .hidden
dr--r--r-- 2 root wheel 128 jul 12 11:59 .vol
drwxr-xr-x 9 kurtraub unknown 306 sep 3 2002 adobe type utilities
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 jul 12 10:33 aktuelle informationen
drwxrwxr-x 85 root admin 2890 jul 12 12:04 applications
drwxr-xr-x 37 kurtraub unknown 1258 jul 12 10:34 applications (mac os 9)
drwxr-xr-x 46 kurtraub unknown 1564 jul 11 17:38 arbeiten_121102
drwxr-xr-x 104 kurtraub unknown 3536 sep 4 2003 bookmarks_expl
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 oct 8 2003 browser folder
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 jul 12 11:36 cleanup at startup
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 0 jan 1 1970 desktop
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 15 jul 12 19:28 desktop (mac os 9) -> /desktop folder
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 2514944 jul 12 12:04 desktop db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 4053666 jul 12 18:39 desktop df
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 jul 12 11:37 desktop folder
drwxr-xr-x 21 kurtraub unknown 714 jun 16 08:13 digibilder_div
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 jul 12 10:36 dokumente
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 19418 sep 4 2003 exportieren der kontakte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 21390 sep 4 2003 favoriten.html
drwxrwxr-x 37 root admin 1258 jan 16 2003 library
drwxr-xr-x 8 kurtraub unknown 272 jun 28 2003 liveupdate ordner
drwxr-xr-x 11 kurtraub unknown 374 sep 28 2004 logs
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 0 nov 10 2004 macintosh hd
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 nov 22 2003 microsoft
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub staff 2437884 aug 28 2002 nscp_70_reviewers-guide-de.pdf
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 dec 3 2002 network
drwx---rwx 3 kurtraub nobody 102 nov 25 2003 network trash folder
drwxr-xr-x 10 kurtraub unknown 340 mar 29 2004 os_9_printer
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub admin 102 apr 26 2004 os_9_updates
drwxr-xr-x 16 kurtraub admin 544 jul 9 10:41 os_x_updates
-rwxrwxrwx 1 kurtraub staff 1216 feb 6 2004 office x 10.1.5 update log
-rwxrwxrwx 1 kurtraub staff 22218 oct 18 2004 office x 10.1.6-protokoll
drwxrwxr-x 3 kurtraub staff 102 jul 4 13:46 ordner "hp laserjet"
drwxrwxr-x 4 root admin 136 aug 20 2004 previous systems
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub admin 170 sep 16 2003 redrawclassic xt
drwxr-xr-x 37 kurtraub unknown 1258 may 18 10:20 schriften
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub admin 102 nov 25 2003 server
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 aug 12 2003 system
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 sep 29 2001 tastatur
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 jul 1 2003 thefindbycontentfolder
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 sep 3 2003 thevolumesettingsfolder
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 jul 12 11:56 trash
drwxrwxr-x 2 root admin 68 apr 13 2004 updaters
drwxrwxr-t 6 root wheel 204 jul 8 19:00 users
drwxrwxrwt 4 root wheel 136 jul 12 12:14 volumes
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 jun 27 2001 welcome to mac os x
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 142 jun 22 2001 _hidden
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 512 jul 12 20:49 automount
drwxr-xr-x 35 root wheel 1190 oct 8 2003 bin
drwxrwxrwt 5 root wheel 170 jul 8 10:33 cores
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 jul 12 11:59 dev
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 etc -> private/etc
-rw-r--r-- 1 kurtraub admin 65999 mar 11 13:16 go.php
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 9 jul 12 19:28 mach -> /mach.sym
-r--r--r-- 1 root admin 709440 jul 12 11:59 mach.sym
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3744576 sep 11 2003 mach_kernel
drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 204 jul 12 11:59 private
drwxr-xr-x 60 root wheel 2040 jul 11 11:35 sbin
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 tmp -> private/tmp
drwxr-xr-x 9 root wheel 306 aug 12 2003 usr
lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 jul 12 19:28 var -> private/var
[k-rs-computer:/] kurtraub%
thanks very much for your professional assistance.
kurt
bicycle - Jul 12, 2005 - 3:17 pm
You're very welcome, Kurt. I only wish that I were doing you more good. My guess is that
rwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
refers to your OS 9 System Folder. The permissions on it appear to be ok.
Now type
cd /
hit return and then type
ls -al systemordner
and hit return, and report that back.
Question1: I don't recognize
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub admin 170 sep 16 2003 redrawclassic xt
Do you know what it is? Could you perhaps move it to your desktop the next time you try to start Classic?
Question2: What if you try to start Classic while logged in as another user on your computer?
Best Wishes,
Ed
rwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
refers to your OS 9 System Folder. The permissions on it appear to be ok.
Now type
cd /
hit return and then type
ls -al systemordner
and hit return, and report that back.
Question1: I don't recognize
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub admin 170 sep 16 2003 redrawclassic xt
Do you know what it is? Could you perhaps move it to your desktop the next time you try to start Classic?
Question2: What if you try to start Classic while logged in as another user on your computer?
Best Wishes,
Ed
kuede - Jul 12, 2005 - 4:05 pm
Hello Ed
I tried out everything you suggested. Still no success:
To Question 1
====================
RedrawClassic XT
RedrawClassic XT is a XTension for QuarkXPress that redraw the QuarkXPress document windows which have afterimages when switching back and forth on Mac OS X Classic environment.
RedrawClassic XT is a freeware and you may copy, bundle, or distribute it freely without prior permission, only if the program and the document are retained as they are.
====================
This extension is disabled in QuarkXPress because it dosn't fix the problem.
To Question 2
====================
I also didn't have success to start Classic as another user.
OS9 Systemfolder Log
====================
Last login: Tue Jul 12 21:01:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[K-Rs-Computer:~] kurtraub% cd /
[K-Rs-Computer:/] kurtraub% ls -al systemordner
total 56632
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 Jul 12 11:58 .
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 Jul 12 21:17 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Dec 11 1996 Albumdatei
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Apr 12 2001 Anmeldung
drwxr-xr-x 17 kurtraub unknown 578 Jul 12 11:38 Apple-Menu??
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 Jul 12 10:30 Application Support
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Ausschaltobjekte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 2172962 Jun 16 2001 Classic
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 181314 Aug 9 2001 Classic Support
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 711763 Jun 16 2001 Classic Support UI
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Jul 12 11:54 Clipboard
drwxr-xr-x 42 kurtraub unknown 1428 Jul 12 10:36 ColorSync Profile
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:31 Contextual Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:30 Erscheinungsbild
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:30 Favoriten
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 1914636 Aug 6 2001 Finder
drwxr-xr-x 7 kurtraub unknown 238 Jul 12 10:33 Hilfen
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 Jul 12 10:33 Internet Plug-Ins
drwxr-xr-x 11 kurtraub unknown 374 Jul 12 10:30 Internet Suchdienste
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 647391 Apr 12 2001 Karten
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:32 KlickStarter-Objekte
drwxr-xr-x 21 kurtraub unknown 714 Jul 12 10:36 Kontrolleistenmodule
drwxr-xr-x 34 kurtraub unknown 1156 Jul 12 10:36 Kontrollfelder
drwxr-xr-x 15 kurtraub unknown 510 Jul 12 10:31 Language & Region Support
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 2578126 Nov 14 2001 Mac OS ROM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Sep 22 1999 MacTCP DNR
drwxr-xr-x 53 kurtraub unknown 1802 Jul 12 11:56 Preferences
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 PrintMonitor-Dokumente
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 1872 May 5 2000 ProxyApp
drwxr-xr-x 12 kurtraub unknown 408 Jul 12 11:52 Scripting Additions
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 Jul 12 10:30 Scripts
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Server
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Startobjekte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 8246884 Jul 12 11:53 System
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Nov 19 2001 System Resources
drwxr-xr-x 165 kurtraub unknown 5610 Jul 12 11:53 Systemerweiterungen
drwxr-xr-x 17 kurtraub unknown 578 Jul 12 10:31 Text Encodings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 845 Jul 12 11:58 VolumeNameIconPict
drwxr-xr-x 32 kurtraub unknown 1088 Jul 12 10:34 Zeichensa??tze
[K-Rs-Computer:/] kurtraub%
As it is 10 p.m. in Switzerland, I think I get asleep... Enjoy visiting your relatives tomorrow. I would be glad to have more professional help to solve the problem. Thanks a lot for your assistance.
Good night
Kurt
I tried out everything you suggested. Still no success:
To Question 1
====================
RedrawClassic XT
RedrawClassic XT is a XTension for QuarkXPress that redraw the QuarkXPress document windows which have afterimages when switching back and forth on Mac OS X Classic environment.
RedrawClassic XT is a freeware and you may copy, bundle, or distribute it freely without prior permission, only if the program and the document are retained as they are.
====================
This extension is disabled in QuarkXPress because it dosn't fix the problem.
To Question 2
====================
I also didn't have success to start Classic as another user.
OS9 Systemfolder Log
====================
Last login: Tue Jul 12 21:01:17 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
[K-Rs-Computer:~] kurtraub% cd /
[K-Rs-Computer:/] kurtraub% ls -al systemordner
total 56632
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 Jul 12 11:58 .
drwxrwxr-t 67 root admin 2278 Jul 12 21:17 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Dec 11 1996 Albumdatei
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Apr 12 2001 Anmeldung
drwxr-xr-x 17 kurtraub unknown 578 Jul 12 11:38 Apple-Menu??
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 Jul 12 10:30 Application Support
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Ausschaltobjekte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 2172962 Jun 16 2001 Classic
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 181314 Aug 9 2001 Classic Support
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 711763 Jun 16 2001 Classic Support UI
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Jul 12 11:54 Clipboard
drwxr-xr-x 42 kurtraub unknown 1428 Jul 12 10:36 ColorSync Profile
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:31 Contextual Menu Items
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:30 Erscheinungsbild
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:30 Favoriten
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 1914636 Aug 6 2001 Finder
drwxr-xr-x 7 kurtraub unknown 238 Jul 12 10:33 Hilfen
drwxr-xr-x 4 kurtraub unknown 136 Jul 12 10:33 Internet Plug-Ins
drwxr-xr-x 11 kurtraub unknown 374 Jul 12 10:30 Internet Suchdienste
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 647391 Apr 12 2001 Karten
drwxr-xr-x 5 kurtraub unknown 170 Jul 12 10:32 KlickStarter-Objekte
drwxr-xr-x 21 kurtraub unknown 714 Jul 12 10:36 Kontrolleistenmodule
drwxr-xr-x 34 kurtraub unknown 1156 Jul 12 10:36 Kontrollfelder
drwxr-xr-x 15 kurtraub unknown 510 Jul 12 10:31 Language & Region Support
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 2578126 Nov 14 2001 Mac OS ROM
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Sep 22 1999 MacTCP DNR
drwxr-xr-x 53 kurtraub unknown 1802 Jul 12 11:56 Preferences
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 PrintMonitor-Dokumente
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 1872 May 5 2000 ProxyApp
drwxr-xr-x 12 kurtraub unknown 408 Jul 12 11:52 Scripting Additions
drwxr-xr-x 3 kurtraub unknown 102 Jul 12 10:30 Scripts
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Server
drwxr-xr-x 2 kurtraub unknown 68 Jul 12 10:39 Startobjekte
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 8246884 Jul 12 11:53 System
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 0 Nov 19 2001 System Resources
drwxr-xr-x 165 kurtraub unknown 5610 Jul 12 11:53 Systemerweiterungen
drwxr-xr-x 17 kurtraub unknown 578 Jul 12 10:31 Text Encodings
-rwxr-xr-x 1 kurtraub unknown 845 Jul 12 11:58 VolumeNameIconPict
drwxr-xr-x 32 kurtraub unknown 1088 Jul 12 10:34 Zeichensa??tze
[K-Rs-Computer:/] kurtraub%
As it is 10 p.m. in Switzerland, I think I get asleep... Enjoy visiting your relatives tomorrow. I would be glad to have more professional help to solve the problem. Thanks a lot for your assistance.
Good night
Kurt
bicycle - Jul 12, 2005 - 4:39 pm
Hello Kurt.
Those permissions look fine to me (the same as with the Classic installation here which works). That is, when it tries to update those resources, it looks like it has permission to overwrite them.
Thank you for your replies to those other questions. I'm not getting any new ideas there either.
You mentioned that you installed a new OS 9.2.2...did you update it fully by booting in OS 9 and using Software Update? Since you are starting with a new System Folder (systemordnung) I think that it is worth trying *everything* in that thread you mentioned:
http://www.macosx.com/content/faq.ph...n-Os-1028.html
You might start with this part (cut and pasted from Cheryl's very complete directions):
Good Luck! As I'll be gone by tomorrow, I'll return this to the pool so that others can help.
Best wishes, and I'm sorry that I wasn't more help.
Ed
--------------------
You will need to download the program Pacifist from here:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6812
Reinstalling Classic Startup.app from 10.2 CDs
Put 10.2, disk 1 CD in the drive.
Launch Pacifist.
Select "Open Package" (either under Pacifist's "File" menu or button on the opening window.)
Navigate to this package and "open" it:
/Mac OS X Install Disc 1/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg
In a few moments, a Pacifist window will open, showing the contents of that Essentials.pkg.
Click the disclosure triangle next to "System" (folder); then "Library" (folder) underneath it; then "CoreServices" (folder) underneath that.
Highlight/select "ClassicStartup.app". (Do not click the disclosure triangle.) Aftering selecting, the buttons in the top left corner will become live.
Click "Install" in the top left corner.
Accept the "Install" of the app, and authenticate (enter your admintrator's name and password) as instructed. Pacifist will start installing the Classic Startup.app from the CD.
During the install process, Pacifist will prompt you whether Stop Installation, Leave Alone, Replace, or Update the "ClassicStartup.app". Press the Replace button.
Next:
Download the complete Combined update equivalent to the copy of 10.2.8 that you're using from here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...bo_10_2_8.html
Locate your copy of the relevant 10.2.8 Combined update package; if it's in a disk image (.dmg) double click the image to mount it. (You need the actual package, not a receipt.)
Launch Pacifist.
Select "Open Package" (under "File" menu or use the button)
Navigate to the 10.3.x Combined update package.
In a moment, the Pacifist window opens showing the contents of the relevant 10.3.x Combined package.
Click the disclosure triangle next to "System" (folder); then "Library" (folder) underneath it; then "CoreServices" (folder) underneath that.
Highlight/select "ClassicStartup.app". (Do not click the disclosure triangle.) Aftering selecting, the buttons in the top left corner will become live.
Click "Install" in the top left corner.
Accept the "Install" of the app, and authenticate as instructed if necessary. Pacifist will start installing the localized files inside the Classic Startup.app from the CD.
During the install process, Pacifist will prompt you whether Stop Installation, Leave Alone, Replace, or Update the "ClassicStartup.app". This time, press the Update button. (You want to update the files)
Once Pacifist is done, you should have an updated copy of the Classic Startup.app.
Probably best to repair permissions after all of this.
--------------
Those permissions look fine to me (the same as with the Classic installation here which works). That is, when it tries to update those resources, it looks like it has permission to overwrite them.
Thank you for your replies to those other questions. I'm not getting any new ideas there either.
You mentioned that you installed a new OS 9.2.2...did you update it fully by booting in OS 9 and using Software Update? Since you are starting with a new System Folder (systemordnung) I think that it is worth trying *everything* in that thread you mentioned:
http://www.macosx.com/content/faq.ph...n-Os-1028.html
You might start with this part (cut and pasted from Cheryl's very complete directions):
Good Luck! As I'll be gone by tomorrow, I'll return this to the pool so that others can help.
Best wishes, and I'm sorry that I wasn't more help.
Ed
--------------------
You will need to download the program Pacifist from here:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6812
Reinstalling Classic Startup.app from 10.2 CDs
Put 10.2, disk 1 CD in the drive.
Launch Pacifist.
Select "Open Package" (either under Pacifist's "File" menu or button on the opening window.)
Navigate to this package and "open" it:
/Mac OS X Install Disc 1/System/Installation/Packages/Essentials.pkg
In a few moments, a Pacifist window will open, showing the contents of that Essentials.pkg.
Click the disclosure triangle next to "System" (folder); then "Library" (folder) underneath it; then "CoreServices" (folder) underneath that.
Highlight/select "ClassicStartup.app". (Do not click the disclosure triangle.) Aftering selecting, the buttons in the top left corner will become live.
Click "Install" in the top left corner.
Accept the "Install" of the app, and authenticate (enter your admintrator's name and password) as instructed. Pacifist will start installing the Classic Startup.app from the CD.
During the install process, Pacifist will prompt you whether Stop Installation, Leave Alone, Replace, or Update the "ClassicStartup.app". Press the Replace button.
Next:
Download the complete Combined update equivalent to the copy of 10.2.8 that you're using from here:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...bo_10_2_8.html
Locate your copy of the relevant 10.2.8 Combined update package; if it's in a disk image (.dmg) double click the image to mount it. (You need the actual package, not a receipt.)
Launch Pacifist.
Select "Open Package" (under "File" menu or use the button)
Navigate to the 10.3.x Combined update package.
In a moment, the Pacifist window opens showing the contents of the relevant 10.3.x Combined package.
Click the disclosure triangle next to "System" (folder); then "Library" (folder) underneath it; then "CoreServices" (folder) underneath that.
Highlight/select "ClassicStartup.app". (Do not click the disclosure triangle.) Aftering selecting, the buttons in the top left corner will become live.
Click "Install" in the top left corner.
Accept the "Install" of the app, and authenticate as instructed if necessary. Pacifist will start installing the localized files inside the Classic Startup.app from the CD.
During the install process, Pacifist will prompt you whether Stop Installation, Leave Alone, Replace, or Update the "ClassicStartup.app". This time, press the Update button. (You want to update the files)
Once Pacifist is done, you should have an updated copy of the Classic Startup.app.
Probably best to repair permissions after all of this.
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kuede - Jul 13, 2005 - 1:53 pm
Hello
I repeated all steps as described. There still appears the message
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
by Classic startup. I was thinking about the root log from yesterday:
System OSX 10.2.8:
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 aug 12 2003 system
System OS 9.2.2:
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
"root" and "wheel"
"kurtraub" and "unknow"
Is this ok? Owner and Group rights are different... I don't know anything about UNIX and user rights but it looks strange to me... Especiyally "wheel", what does it mean?
Do you have an idea how to fix my problem?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
I repeated all steps as described. There still appears the message
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
by Classic startup. I was thinking about the root log from yesterday:
System OSX 10.2.8:
drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 136 aug 12 2003 system
System OS 9.2.2:
drwxr-xr-x 39 kurtraub unknown 1326 jul 12 11:58 systemordner
"root" and "wheel"
"kurtraub" and "unknow"
Is this ok? Owner and Group rights are different... I don't know anything about UNIX and user rights but it looks strange to me... Especiyally "wheel", what does it mean?
Do you have an idea how to fix my problem?
Thanks very much for your help.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 15, 2005 - 5:46 pm
Kurt,
My name is Cheryl and I will be assisting you.
Your permissions look correct. Root and wheel are names that the OS X system uses.
It could very well be that the preference files for Classic are corrupt, which sometimes happens. Since you have a fresh OS 9/classic system installed, trashing the preference files will give it a fresh start.
Go to Home>Library>Preferences>By Host.
Now from the view menu select by list, making it easier to find files.
You need to trash the com.apple.Classic.{numbers 7 letters}.plist
Now go to Hard Drive>System Folder with the 9 on the folder icon>Preferences.
Trash the Classic Preference file.
Empty the trash. Give classic a try. Let me know how you do.
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My name is Cheryl and I will be assisting you.
Your permissions look correct. Root and wheel are names that the OS X system uses.
It could very well be that the preference files for Classic are corrupt, which sometimes happens. Since you have a fresh OS 9/classic system installed, trashing the preference files will give it a fresh start.
Go to Home>Library>Preferences>By Host.
Now from the view menu select by list, making it easier to find files.
You need to trash the com.apple.Classic.{numbers 7 letters}.plist
Now go to Hard Drive>System Folder with the 9 on the folder icon>Preferences.
Trash the Classic Preference file.
Empty the trash. Give classic a try. Let me know how you do.
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kuede - Jul 17, 2005 - 7:33 am
Hello Cheryl
Thank you very much for your assistance. I still have'nt solved my Classic problem.
I followed your proposed steps. I deleted the file com.apple.Classic.{numbers 7 letters}.plist
I could'nt find a classic preference file in the OS9 system folder. Maybe because it never started Classic from OSX?
After this I tried to start Classic which failed...
Do you have another idea?
Thank you very much for keeping on my case.
Kurt
Thank you very much for your assistance. I still have'nt solved my Classic problem.
I followed your proposed steps. I deleted the file com.apple.Classic.{numbers 7 letters}.plist
I could'nt find a classic preference file in the OS9 system folder. Maybe because it never started Classic from OSX?
After this I tried to start Classic which failed...
Do you have another idea?
Thank you very much for keeping on my case.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 17, 2005 - 9:26 am
Kurt,
With all that you have done already, have you used Disk Utility to repair the drive or used fsck?
1. Shut down the computer if it is on.
2. Press the power button to start the computer.
3. Immediately press and hold the Command (Apple) key and the "s" key for single-user mode.
4. At the command-line prompt, type: /sbin/fsck -fy
5. Press Return.
The fsck utility will go through five "phases" then return information about the disk's utilization and fragmentation. Once the check is finished, if no issue is found, you should see "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK."
Note: If fsck alters, repairs, or fixes anything, it will display the message:
***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
Important: If this message appears, repeat the fsck command until it no longer appears. It's OK if you need to do several "passes" of fsck, because first-pass repairs may uncover additional issues.
When fsck reports that, "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK.",
6. type: reboot
7. Press Return.
Let me know if this corrects the problem. I do have other tricks up my sleeve.
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With all that you have done already, have you used Disk Utility to repair the drive or used fsck?
1. Shut down the computer if it is on.
2. Press the power button to start the computer.
3. Immediately press and hold the Command (Apple) key and the "s" key for single-user mode.
4. At the command-line prompt, type: /sbin/fsck -fy
5. Press Return.
The fsck utility will go through five "phases" then return information about the disk's utilization and fragmentation. Once the check is finished, if no issue is found, you should see "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK."
Note: If fsck alters, repairs, or fixes anything, it will display the message:
***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
Important: If this message appears, repeat the fsck command until it no longer appears. It's OK if you need to do several "passes" of fsck, because first-pass repairs may uncover additional issues.
When fsck reports that, "** The volume (name of volume) appears to be OK.",
6. type: reboot
7. Press Return.
Let me know if this corrects the problem. I do have other tricks up my sleeve.
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kuede - Jul 17, 2005 - 10:53 am
Hello Cheryl
Thanks very much for your support.
I did the single-user mode startup
After the /sbin/fsck -fy command following message appeared:
"The volume Macintosh HD appears to be OK"
What you think? I hope you've got the right trick in your sleeve...
Thanks very much for supporting me
Kurt
Thanks very much for your support.
I did the single-user mode startup
After the /sbin/fsck -fy command following message appeared:
"The volume Macintosh HD appears to be OK"
What you think? I hope you've got the right trick in your sleeve...
Thanks very much for supporting me
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 17, 2005 - 2:13 pm
Kurt,
Go to System Folder with the 9 on the folder icon.
Now go to the view menu and select by list. This will put things in alpha order.
Locate and trash the following:
Classic
Classic Support
Classic Support UI
Now give Classic a try. If it starts up, you can empty the trash. If you don't have those files let me know.
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Go to System Folder with the 9 on the folder icon.
Now go to the view menu and select by list. This will put things in alpha order.
Locate and trash the following:
Classic
Classic Support
Classic Support UI
Now give Classic a try. If it starts up, you can empty the trash. If you don't have those files let me know.
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kuede - Jul 18, 2005 - 2:12 am
Hi Cheryl
I took out the three files out from the OS9 system folder and put them into trash. Classic startup is still interrupted by the message
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
This seems to be a very hard case. I'm surprised after working more than two years without problems like this.
Do you have another helpful suggestion?
Thanks very much.
Kurt
I took out the three files out from the OS9 system folder and put them into trash. Classic startup is still interrupted by the message
"Resource Update Error - An error was encountered while attempting to update your system folder with Classic-specific resources."
This seems to be a very hard case. I'm surprised after working more than two years without problems like this.
Do you have another helpful suggestion?
Thanks very much.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 18, 2005 - 9:40 am
Kurt,
I do believe there is a locked file within the OS 9 system folder>extensions that is causing this. When classic starts up, it looks for specific extensions, then updates them so they can be used in the Classic environment. The trick is to know which one.
Go to Applications>utilities (in OS X) and open Console. What I need to see is the log from when you tried to open Classic. This will give me the information needed. Just copy and paste it here.
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I do believe there is a locked file within the OS 9 system folder>extensions that is causing this. When classic starts up, it looks for specific extensions, then updates them so they can be used in the Classic environment. The trick is to know which one.
Go to Applications>utilities (in OS X) and open Console. What I need to see is the log from when you tried to open Classic. This will give me the information needed. Just copy and paste it here.
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kuede - Jul 18, 2005 - 10:36 am
Hello Cheryl
I get following message from the console:
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
Jul 18 16:31:17 K-Rs-Computer Classic[638]: AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
Jul 18 16:31:24 K-Rs-Computer WindowServer[182]: CGXPostEventByConnection: invalid connection
This sounds quite mysterious... Does it give to you an idea?
Thanks for spending your energy on this case.
Kurt
I get following message from the console:
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
Jul 18 16:31:17 K-Rs-Computer Classic[638]: AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
Jul 18 16:31:24 K-Rs-Computer WindowServer[182]: CGXPostEventByConnection: invalid connection
This sounds quite mysterious... Does it give to you an idea?
Thanks for spending your energy on this case.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 18, 2005 - 12:32 pm
Kurt,
Go to Home>Library>Recent Servers.
Trash all the files in there.
Then go to System Folder - with the 9 on the folder icon>Servers
Trash all the files in there.
That - AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
did it list the files? Something like this: Startup.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/SystemFiles/CarbonLib to /System Folder/Extensions failed, err=-45
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Go to Home>Library>Recent Servers.
Trash all the files in there.
Then go to System Folder - with the 9 on the folder icon>Servers
Trash all the files in there.
That - AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
did it list the files? Something like this: Startup.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/SystemFiles/CarbonLib to /System Folder/Extensions failed, err=-45
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kuede - Jul 18, 2005 - 1:07 pm
Hello Cheryl
I trashed two files
---Recent Servers:
Mac2-* (this is my second Mac with OS 8.1)
PC MACLAN-* (this is a Windows terminal)
---System Folder OS9 > Servers:
None (no files in this folder)
Unfortunately the Console does only show these lines by Classic startup:
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
Jul 18 18:53:32 Kurt-Raubers-Computer Classic[678]: AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
Jul 18 18:53:36 K-Rs-Computer WindowServer[182]: CGXPostEventByConnection: invalid connection
This looks like Chinese to me.
I hope your professional eyes might get some important information to solve the case...
Thank you for assistance
Kurt
I trashed two files
---Recent Servers:
Mac2-* (this is my second Mac with OS 8.1)
PC MACLAN-* (this is a Windows terminal)
---System Folder OS9 > Servers:
None (no files in this folder)
Unfortunately the Console does only show these lines by Classic startup:
## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
Jul 18 18:53:32 Kurt-Raubers-Computer Classic[678]: AUTOUPDATE ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
Jul 18 18:53:36 K-Rs-Computer WindowServer[182]: CGXPostEventByConnection: invalid connection
This looks like Chinese to me.
I hope your professional eyes might get some important information to solve the case...
Thank you for assistance
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 18, 2005 - 3:03 pm
Kurt,
In going over this entire ticket and reading what you and Ed have done, I do have a few questions.
What is the main language on your computer - English? What is the language of the OS 9 install disk or the disk that you copied it from?
From what I can find about that error is that the OS 9 classic files do not match the language on your computer.
Are you connected to a network? What program are you trying to start up in Classic?
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In going over this entire ticket and reading what you and Ed have done, I do have a few questions.
What is the main language on your computer - English? What is the language of the OS 9 install disk or the disk that you copied it from?
From what I can find about that error is that the OS 9 classic files do not match the language on your computer.
Are you connected to a network? What program are you trying to start up in Classic?
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kuede - Jul 19, 2005 - 2:49 am
Hello Cheryl
1. The main language on my computer is Swiss-German
2. All the classic programs are Swiss German or German versions
3. My terminal is connect by ethernet with a Mac (OS 8.1) and with a Windows 95, which I don't use often.
4. I'm not sure which Classic program I started when the problem started. It could be it was QuarkXPress 5.0, Acrobat 4.0, Freehand 7.02 or MS Word 5.1...
I hope this information helps you. What do you think about Norton System Works? Could it solve my problems? I have an OSX version of Norton, but since I read a few bad articles about it I hesitate to use it. Are there any other repair programs?
Thanks very much for keeping on my case
Kurt
1. The main language on my computer is Swiss-German
2. All the classic programs are Swiss German or German versions
3. My terminal is connect by ethernet with a Mac (OS 8.1) and with a Windows 95, which I don't use often.
4. I'm not sure which Classic program I started when the problem started. It could be it was QuarkXPress 5.0, Acrobat 4.0, Freehand 7.02 or MS Word 5.1...
I hope this information helps you. What do you think about Norton System Works? Could it solve my problems? I have an OSX version of Norton, but since I read a few bad articles about it I hesitate to use it. Are there any other repair programs?
Thanks very much for keeping on my case
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 19, 2005 - 6:58 am
Kurt,
Do not use Norton System works or Utilities on a drive that has OS X on it. I do recommend Disk Warrior or TechTool Pro.
While it may seem unrelated, go to:
Home>Library>Font Collections
Trash the Classic.fcache
Now go to System Folder - with the 9 on the folder>Fonts.
How many fonts are listed?
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Do not use Norton System works or Utilities on a drive that has OS X on it. I do recommend Disk Warrior or TechTool Pro.
While it may seem unrelated, go to:
Home>Library>Font Collections
Trash the Classic.fcache
Now go to System Folder - with the 9 on the folder>Fonts.
How many fonts are listed?
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kuede - Jul 19, 2005 - 7:24 am
Hello Cheryl
I can’t find the file Classic.fcache
In the Folder Libray > Caches there is a file
"com.apple.FcacheClassicDomain"
Shall I trash this one?
In the OS9 system folder are presently 30 fonts (installed with the new system last week). All the other fonts I’m managing with Suitcase v10.2.2 without any problems.
What shall I do next? Thanks very much for your advise.
Kurt
I can’t find the file Classic.fcache
In the Folder Libray > Caches there is a file
"com.apple.FcacheClassicDomain"
Shall I trash this one?
In the OS9 system folder are presently 30 fonts (installed with the new system last week). All the other fonts I’m managing with Suitcase v10.2.2 without any problems.
What shall I do next? Thanks very much for your advise.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 19, 2005 - 8:14 am
Kurt,
Do you have Suitcase managing the classic fonts as well as OS X?
Suitcase could possibly be the culprit. Disable Suitcase- allow Font Book to manage your fonts, then give Classic a try.
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Do you have Suitcase managing the classic fonts as well as OS X?
Suitcase could possibly be the culprit. Disable Suitcase- allow Font Book to manage your fonts, then give Classic a try.
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kuede - Jul 19, 2005 - 10:17 am
Hello Cheryl
I did as you suggested. I disabled Suitcase and started FontBook. FontBook came up with a message:
not enough memory (translated from German)
Error Code: 58
System Code: -35
So I increased memory 6x as much as recommended. But still no positive result...
What do you think about that?
Thank for being so patient.
Kurt
I did as you suggested. I disabled Suitcase and started FontBook. FontBook came up with a message:
not enough memory (translated from German)
Error Code: 58
System Code: -35
So I increased memory 6x as much as recommended. But still no positive result...
What do you think about that?
Thank for being so patient.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 19, 2005 - 11:01 am
Kurt,
I think we found the problem. Fonts.
When you did the reinstall of Classic (OS 9) do you remember if you saved the fonts from the old folder?
It has been reported that Helvetica can go corrupt and that can cause system problems in Classic. To correct that, you need to copy that font family from a different computer with a similar set up and then replace the old with the new.
Also, remove some of the fonts from Hard drive>Library>Font folder. Save them to a new folder on the desktop (you can name it rescued fonts).
Now give it a try.
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I think we found the problem. Fonts.
When you did the reinstall of Classic (OS 9) do you remember if you saved the fonts from the old folder?
It has been reported that Helvetica can go corrupt and that can cause system problems in Classic. To correct that, you need to copy that font family from a different computer with a similar set up and then replace the old with the new.
Also, remove some of the fonts from Hard drive>Library>Font folder. Save them to a new folder on the desktop (you can name it rescued fonts).
Now give it a try.
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kuede - Jul 19, 2005 - 12:32 pm
Hi Cheryl
I removed the Helvetica from the OS9 system font folder and saved the OSX fonts on a folder on my desktop as suggested. But Classic startup stops still with the same message.
Shall I take my toolbox with hammer and screwdriver? I'm sure you have a better idea.
Thanks a lot.
Kurt
I removed the Helvetica from the OS9 system font folder and saved the OSX fonts on a folder on my desktop as suggested. But Classic startup stops still with the same message.
Shall I take my toolbox with hammer and screwdriver? I'm sure you have a better idea.
Thanks a lot.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 19, 2005 - 4:03 pm
Kurt,
No hammer - yet. Sometimes computers seem to have a mind of its own.
Can you start up the computer in OS 9? Use the System Preferences>Startup Disk. Does OS 9 show up? If so, select it, then do a restart.
Once it start up, Go to Apple Menu>Control Panels>Software update. See if there is anything that needs to be updated. Then try using one of those programs that you were trying to start up in classic.
Once you have done what needs to be done, go to the Apple menu>Control Panels>Startup Disk and select OS X, and restart.
Now give Classic a try.
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No hammer - yet. Sometimes computers seem to have a mind of its own.
Can you start up the computer in OS 9? Use the System Preferences>Startup Disk. Does OS 9 show up? If so, select it, then do a restart.
Once it start up, Go to Apple Menu>Control Panels>Software update. See if there is anything that needs to be updated. Then try using one of those programs that you were trying to start up in classic.
Once you have done what needs to be done, go to the Apple menu>Control Panels>Startup Disk and select OS X, and restart.
Now give Classic a try.
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kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 2:34 am
Hello Cheryl
I made the OS9 boot. The software update aked for Nivida driver, Authoring Support and CarbonLib which I updated. Then I started the Classic programs – everything seems to work well.
Then I made the OSX boot and tried to start Classic again... Result: still the same error message.
Do you have another suggestion? Thank you very much.
Kurt
I made the OS9 boot. The software update aked for Nivida driver, Authoring Support and CarbonLib which I updated. Then I started the Classic programs – everything seems to work well.
Then I made the OSX boot and tried to start Classic again... Result: still the same error message.
Do you have another suggestion? Thank you very much.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 10:12 am
Kurt,
Does Classic show up in the System Preferences?
Go to System Preferences, and then click Classic.
Click Advanced.
Choose Turn Off Extensions from the pop-up menu, and then click Start Classic.
Double check the Hard drive. You should have only two System folders.
One with a 9 on the folder icon labeled System Folder
One with a X on the folder icon labeled System
If you have Previous System folder - or any other system folders, drag them to the trash.
This is getting just as frustrating to me as to you. What language do you have installed in OS 9 and in OS X? I am wondering if this is the problem. I have read different theories on language between the two.
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Does Classic show up in the System Preferences?
Go to System Preferences, and then click Classic.
Click Advanced.
Choose Turn Off Extensions from the pop-up menu, and then click Start Classic.
Double check the Hard drive. You should have only two System folders.
One with a 9 on the folder icon labeled System Folder
One with a X on the folder icon labeled System
If you have Previous System folder - or any other system folders, drag them to the trash.
This is getting just as frustrating to me as to you. What language do you have installed in OS 9 and in OS X? I am wondering if this is the problem. I have read different theories on language between the two.
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Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 10:35 am
Kurt,
I think I stumbled upon something that may solve the problem.
Check the HardDrive>System (with the X on it)>Library>CoreServices.
There should be Classic Startup in there. Click on it once and then go to the File menu and select Get info. The Owner & permission will be set to You can Read Only.
What is particularly important is Languages. Click on the arrow next to Languages. What does it list?
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I think I stumbled upon something that may solve the problem.
Check the HardDrive>System (with the X on it)>Library>CoreServices.
There should be Classic Startup in there. Click on it once and then go to the File menu and select Get info. The Owner & permission will be set to You can Read Only.
What is particularly important is Languages. Click on the arrow next to Languages. What does it list?
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kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 11:20 am
Hello Cheryl
Classic shows up in the Sytem preferences. I tried to start it up whithout extensions as you proposed. But there is still the same message.
Then I found a system folder with a previous System (OSX 10.1). I put in trash.
Now there are only two system folders on the Hard Disk:
- "Systemordner" (System Folder with OS 9.2.2)
- "System" (OSX 10.2.8)
Both are installed as Swiss-German versions.
Do you think TechTool Pro could fix my problem? In a store nearby it is available. I feel bad to keep you occupied by this startup problem.
What do you think? Thanks a lot for your help.
Kurt
Classic shows up in the Sytem preferences. I tried to start it up whithout extensions as you proposed. But there is still the same message.
Then I found a system folder with a previous System (OSX 10.1). I put in trash.
Now there are only two system folders on the Hard Disk:
- "Systemordner" (System Folder with OS 9.2.2)
- "System" (OSX 10.2.8)
Both are installed as Swiss-German versions.
Do you think TechTool Pro could fix my problem? In a store nearby it is available. I feel bad to keep you occupied by this startup problem.
What do you think? Thanks a lot for your help.
Kurt
kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 11:45 am
Hello Cheryl
Classic Startup lists following:
- da
- Dutch
- English
- fi
- French
- German
- Italian
- Japanese
- ko
- no
- pt
- Spanish
- sv
- zh_CN
- zh_TW
All languages are marked. This this is quite a list. Does it help you?
Thank very much for your support.
Kurt
Classic Startup lists following:
- da
- Dutch
- English
- fi
- French
- German
- Italian
- Japanese
- ko
- no
- pt
- Spanish
- sv
- zh_CN
- zh_TW
All languages are marked. This this is quite a list. Does it help you?
Thank very much for your support.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 1:17 pm
Kurt,
That is why it is not starting up. All those languages to choose from.
You are going to have to uncheck everything except sv and German.
First, go back to System>Library>Core Services. Click once on Classic Startup.
Go to the File Menu and select Get Info.
Click on the arrow next to Details.
The first pull down menu is Owner and that is set to System. Right next to is is a pad lock. If that lock is locked, click on it. You will be asked you password. Type it in, then click on okay.
Now in that pull down menu (next to Owner) select your user name.
You may be asked to type in your password again.
After you type in the password, check to make sure Owner shows your user name. If not, change it again. This time you will not be asked for a password.
Now Highlight one of the languages and click on the remove button.
If the system does not allow you to do this, you will need to enable Root User, then log in to Root user.
The Root user can do anything - you just have to be careful. Let me know how you do.
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That is why it is not starting up. All those languages to choose from.
You are going to have to uncheck everything except sv and German.
First, go back to System>Library>Core Services. Click once on Classic Startup.
Go to the File Menu and select Get Info.
Click on the arrow next to Details.
The first pull down menu is Owner and that is set to System. Right next to is is a pad lock. If that lock is locked, click on it. You will be asked you password. Type it in, then click on okay.
Now in that pull down menu (next to Owner) select your user name.
You may be asked to type in your password again.
After you type in the password, check to make sure Owner shows your user name. If not, change it again. This time you will not be asked for a password.
Now Highlight one of the languages and click on the remove button.
If the system does not allow you to do this, you will need to enable Root User, then log in to Root user.
The Root user can do anything - you just have to be careful. Let me know how you do.
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kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 2:09 pm
Hello Cheryl
I tried to do as you suggested. After I changed the owner permission to my name the languages stay grey. I can't make any changes there.
What you mean with enable Root User and log in? What kind of steps I have to do to become Root User?
Thank you very much for keeping on.
Kurt
I tried to do as you suggested. After I changed the owner permission to my name the languages stay grey. I can't make any changes there.
What you mean with enable Root User and log in? What kind of steps I have to do to become Root User?
Thank you very much for keeping on.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 2:25 pm
Kurt,
I was worried that would happen. Enabling root user is easy.
The root user, sometimes called the superuser, is a special user account in Mac OS X that has read and write privileges to all areas of the file system. The root user can move and delete any file in the system, including system files not available to any other user. Because it's easy to damage the computer by moving or deleting some files, use the root account with extreme caution.
Open NetInfo Manager, located in Applications > Utilities.
Choose Security > Enable Root User and type a password for the root account. You may need to type an administrator password to make these changes. You may want to use the same password as your Admin account - just to keep things simple.
Open system Preferences>Accounts>Login Options. Disable Automatic Login if you have it active. Then you want to select Display list of users.
Choose Apple menu > Log Out.
In the Login window, Select root and type in the root password in the Password field.
Now try removing those languages.
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Cheryl
I was worried that would happen. Enabling root user is easy.
The root user, sometimes called the superuser, is a special user account in Mac OS X that has read and write privileges to all areas of the file system. The root user can move and delete any file in the system, including system files not available to any other user. Because it's easy to damage the computer by moving or deleting some files, use the root account with extreme caution.
Open NetInfo Manager, located in Applications > Utilities.
Choose Security > Enable Root User and type a password for the root account. You may need to type an administrator password to make these changes. You may want to use the same password as your Admin account - just to keep things simple.
Open system Preferences>Accounts>Login Options. Disable Automatic Login if you have it active. Then you want to select Display list of users.
Choose Apple menu > Log Out.
In the Login window, Select root and type in the root password in the Password field.
Now try removing those languages.
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kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 3:24 pm
Hello Cheryl
Thank you very much for the instructions. I could change all the language information. Only German and sv I left marked.
Then I tried to start Classic. It didn't even make a sign of a move. Classic Window didn't appear, even no error message.
What shall I do next? Thank you for your advise.
Kurt
Thank you very much for the instructions. I could change all the language information. Only German and sv I left marked.
Then I tried to start Classic. It didn't even make a sign of a move. Classic Window didn't appear, even no error message.
What shall I do next? Thank you for your advise.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 3:35 pm
Kurt,
At least you got no errors.
Now go to Home>Library>Preferences>by host and trash the com.apple.classic file
Now give it a try from the System Preferences>Classic.
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At least you got no errors.
Now go to Home>Library>Preferences>by host and trash the com.apple.classic file
Now give it a try from the System Preferences>Classic.
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kuede - Jul 20, 2005 - 4:34 pm
Hello Cheryl
I followed your advise. But there still is no move... In Switzerland it is 10.30 p.m. Maybe I get from you tomorrow another idea how to fix it?
Thanks for your efforts.
Kurt
I followed your advise. But there still is no move... In Switzerland it is 10.30 p.m. Maybe I get from you tomorrow another idea how to fix it?
Thanks for your efforts.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 20, 2005 - 7:33 pm
Kurt,
When you copied the OS 9 folder from another machine, was that the same set up as this machine? -- with the same OS X version? Is OS 9 the same language ?
Go back to hard Drive>System>Library>Core Services. Click on Classic Startup, then select File Menu>Get Info.
What version is it?
I find it rather odd that you can start up in OS 9, but can not start up Classic.
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When you copied the OS 9 folder from another machine, was that the same set up as this machine? -- with the same OS X version? Is OS 9 the same language ?
Go back to hard Drive>System>Library>Core Services. Click on Classic Startup, then select File Menu>Get Info.
What version is it?
I find it rather odd that you can start up in OS 9, but can not start up Classic.
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kuede - Jul 21, 2005 - 2:39 am
Hello Cheryl
Actually I didn't copy the OS 9 folder from another machine. Last week I made a complete clean install (v9.2.1) of it with all the updates (v9.2.2).
Classic Startup is version 1.7.8
Mon Jan. 6, 2003, 20:36 h
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I'm still thinking about the mysterious message from Jul 18, 3:36pm:
ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
It would have been very interesting to have these files listed. Maybe it is just a little stupid thing which makes the trouble.
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Thanks very much for your professional assistance.
Kurt
Actually I didn't copy the OS 9 folder from another machine. Last week I made a complete clean install (v9.2.1) of it with all the updates (v9.2.2).
Classic Startup is version 1.7.8
Mon Jan. 6, 2003, 20:36 h
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I'm still thinking about the mysterious message from Jul 18, 3:36pm:
ERROR: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
It would have been very interesting to have these files listed. Maybe it is just a little stupid thing which makes the trouble.
=======
Thanks very much for your professional assistance.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 21, 2005 - 10:17 am
Kurt,
We have to dig deeper into this and Console will help us.
First, go to Home>Library>Logs>CrashReporter. See if there is a file for Classic and open it. (or System)
Copy and paste the report here.
also check Hard Drive>Library>Logs>CrashReporter.
If there are no logs - then open Console (in Applications>Utilities).
When the window opens, try starting Classic again.
See what the Console window says and copy and paste it here.
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We have to dig deeper into this and Console will help us.
First, go to Home>Library>Logs>CrashReporter. See if there is a file for Classic and open it. (or System)
Copy and paste the report here.
also check Hard Drive>Library>Logs>CrashReporter.
If there are no logs - then open Console (in Applications>Utilities).
When the window opens, try starting Classic again.
See what the Console window says and copy and paste it here.
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kuede - Jul 21, 2005 - 12:24 pm
Hello cheryl
following what the console says. there are also a few crash files which are falling in the period when problems started.
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message from console by classic startup
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
jul 21 18:17:05 k-rs-computer classic[624]: autoupdate error: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
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hard drive>library>logs>crashreporter
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???.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-06 17:50:46 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: unknown
pid: unknown
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000000
(null)
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba54 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x93076e78 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x93076e78 r1: 0xf0181610 r2: 0x00027410 r3: 0x000f9410
r4: 0x906c31e0 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0x00000131 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x000c3010 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x000c3290 r11: 0xa3072f70
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x03843da4 r14: 0x0378b7c4 r15: 0x0383b71c
r16: 0xf0181a28 r17: 0x03ad0c24 r18: 0x03ad0c00 r19: 0x00000082
r20: 0x03af717e r21: 0x03af6ca0 r22: 0xf0181a1c r23: 0x0380d5e8
r24: 0x0380d5c8 r25: 0x03807ed0 r26: 0x03818238 r27: 0x00000524
r28: 0xf01818a0 r29: 0x000f9410 r30: 0x000f9410 r31: 0x93076e0c
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date/time: 2005-07-09 12:08:38 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: unknown
pid: unknown
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000000
(null)
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9005ce38 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x9005ce34 ctr: 0x9001b400 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000025 r1: 0xf00808a0 r2: 0x42000284 r3: 0x00000098
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0xf0080880 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0xa0007164 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0x000a1ad0 r11: 0xa00045d4
r12: 0x9001b400 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000001
r20: 0xa2be8108 r21: 0xf0080d10 r22: 0xa2bd8108 r23: 0xa2ba8108
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00001103 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0xbffffab0
r28: 0xf0080a30 r29: 0x00000098 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x9005cdd0
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hard drive>library>logs>crashreporter
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disk utility.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-10 13:15:00 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: disk utility
pid: 460
exception: exc_breakpoint (0x0006)
code[0]: 0x00000001code[1]: 0x8fe01220
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x8fe01220 in halt
#1 0x8fe0323c in load_library_image
#2 0x8fe060d4 in load_images_libraries
#3 0x8fe02688 in load_executable_image
#4 0x8fe013b0 in _dyld_init
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x8fe01220 srr1: 0x0002f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x8fe0a004 ctr: 0x8fe28ebc mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000004 r1: 0xbffffb30 r2: 0x6b205574 r3: 0x000000f9
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x000000f9 r6: 0x0000290a r7: 0x726e6f20
r8: 0x66696c65 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0xbffff8ab r11: 0x00000026
r12: 0x8fe71b21 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x0000531c r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0xbffffdd4 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x8fe4b3d8 r25: 0x00000002 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00001984 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x8fe484d8 r31: 0x8fe09e6c
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date/time: 2005-07-10 13:15:47 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: disk utility
pid: 462
exception: exc_breakpoint (0x0006)
code[0]: 0x00000001code[1]: 0x8fe01220
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x8fe01220 in halt
#1 0x8fe0323c in load_library_image
#2 0x8fe060d4 in load_images_libraries
#3 0x8fe02688 in load_executable_image
#4 0x8fe013b0 in _dyld_init
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x8fe01220 srr1: 0x0002f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x8fe0a004 ctr: 0x8fe28ebc mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000004 r1: 0xbffffb30 r2: 0x6b205574 r3: 0x000000f9
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x000000f9 r6: 0x0000290a r7: 0x726e6f20
r8: 0x66696c65 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0xbffff8ab r11: 0x00000026
r12: 0x8fe71b21 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x0000531c r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0xbffffdd4 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x8fe4b3d8 r25: 0x00000002 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00001984 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x8fe484d8 r31: 0x8fe09e6c
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home>library>logs>crashreporter:
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setupassistant.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-08 19:09:21 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: setupassistant
pid: 505
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000020
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x9068ba50 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x0271b890 in -[mbchooseregisterorquit nextpage]
#2 0x922f7860 in -[mbassistantchoosepage redirectpage]
#3 0x922f1b50 in -[nsassistantsection firstpage]
#4 0x922f1d64 in -[nsassistantcontroller loadassistantdocument:]
#5 0x922f3aa0 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocument:]
#6 0x922f3b14 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocumentatpath:]
#7 0x97dfab40 in _nsnotificationcentercallback
#8 0x9016847c in _postnotification
#9 0x90165b90 in _cfnotificationcenterpostlocalnotification
#10 0x9318b16c in -[nsapplication _sendfinishlaunchingnotification]
#11 0x93161f98 in _requiredaeeventhandler
#12 0x91b56570 in _z20aedispatchappleeventpk6aedescps_mph
#13 0x91b590cc in _z25dispatcheventandsendreplypk6aedescps_
#14 0x91b56478 in aeprocessappleevent
#15 0x96a83778 in aeprocessappleevent
#16 0x9308e698 in _dpsnextevent
#17 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#18 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#19 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#20 0x00003ea0 in 0x3ea0
#21 0x00003ddc in 0x3ddc
#22 0x00003c1c in 0x3c1c
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4:
#0 0x90000d6c in read
#1 0x92393348 in sendatcommand
#2 0x92392df0 in sendcommand
#3 0x923a7c08 in setmodemcountrybyindex
#4 0x92393a88 in -[mbselectmodemcountry _setmodemforcountry:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 5:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x9023317c in tswaitonsemaphorecommon
#3 0x9023bf78 in timerthread
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba50 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x0271b890 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x0271b890 r1: 0xbfffead0 r2: 0xa22f77f8 r3: 0xa06805f8
r4: 0x92314904 r5: 0xa22f77f8 r6: 0x000001a1 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x00000533 r9: 0x01ab0000 r10: 0x901a3e10 r11: 0x0271d010
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000002 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x000830b0 r21: 0x0d9a1072 r22: 0xa3075988 r23: 0xbffff1c0
r24: 0xa22f1bc0 r25: 0xa22f1bc0 r26: 0xa22f1bc0 r27: 0xa22f1bc0
r28: 0x026476d0 r29: 0x0286b760 r30: 0x0286b760 r31: 0x0271b864
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date/time: 2005-07-08 19:09:32 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: setupassistant
pid: 509
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000020
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x9068ba50 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x0271b890 in -[mbchooseregisterorquit nextpage]
#2 0x922f7860 in -[mbassistantchoosepage redirectpage]
#3 0x922f1b50 in -[nsassistantsection firstpage]
#4 0x922f1d64 in -[nsassistantcontroller loadassistantdocument:]
#5 0x922f3aa0 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocument:]
#6 0x922f3b14 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocumentatpath:]
#7 0x97dfab40 in _nsnotificationcentercallback
#8 0x9016847c in _postnotification
#9 0x90165b90 in _cfnotificationcenterpostlocalnotification
#10 0x9318b16c in -[nsapplication _sendfinishlaunchingnotification]
#11 0x93161f98 in _requiredaeeventhandler
#12 0x91b56570 in _z20aedispatchappleeventpk6aedescps_mph
#13 0x91b590cc in _z25dispatcheventandsendreplypk6aedescps_
#14 0x91b56478 in aeprocessappleevent
#15 0x96a83778 in aeprocessappleevent
#16 0x9308e698 in _dpsnextevent
#17 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#18 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#19 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#20 0x00003ea0 in 0x3ea0
#21 0x00003ddc in 0x3ddc
#22 0x00003c1c in 0x3c1c
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4:
#0 0x90000d6c in read
#1 0x92393348 in sendatcommand
#2 0x92392df0 in sendcommand
#3 0x923a7c08 in setmodemcountrybyindex
#4 0x92393a88 in -[mbselectmodemcountry _setmodemforcountry:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 5:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x9023317c in tswaitonsemaphorecommon
#3 0x9023bf78 in timerthread
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba50 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x0271b890 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x0271b890 r1: 0xbfffead0 r2: 0xa22f77f8 r3: 0xa06805f8
r4: 0x92314904 r5: 0xa22f77f8 r6: 0x00000051 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x000000f4 r9: 0x02783000 r10: 0x901a3e10 r11: 0x0271d010
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000002 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x000830b0 r21: 0x0d9a1072 r22: 0xa3075988 r23: 0xbffff1c0
r24: 0xa22f1bc0 r25: 0xa22f1bc0 r26: 0xa22f1bc0 r27: 0xa22f1bc0
r28: 0x02647580 r29: 0x02d34830 r30: 0x02d34830 r31: 0x0271b864
====================================================================
home>library>logs>crashreporter:
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distiller.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-06 17:50:45 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: distiller
pid: 610
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000040
thread 0:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9022a720 in switchcontexts
#3 0x90224fc8 in yieldtothread
#4 0x9022ab80 in yieldtoanythread
#5 0x00006554 in -[aadappcontroller timerfired:]
#6 0x97df4dc0 in __nsfiretimer
#7 0x901631dc in __cfrunloopdotimer
#8 0x90148c70 in __cfrunlooprun
#9 0x90180f04 in cfrunlooprunspecific
#10 0x969a3b70 in runcurrenteventloopinmode
#11 0x969b3b00 in receivenexteventcommon
#12 0x969dabbc in blockuntilnexteventmatchinglistinmode
#13 0x9308e4cc in _dpsnextevent
#14 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#15 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#16 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#17 0x0001d0f0 in main
#18 0x000039e8 in _start
#19 0x00003868 in start
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x902a0d4c in mpwaitonsemaphore
#3 0x03692f14 in 0x3692f14
#4 0x03693150 in 0x3693150
#5 0x03692b68 in 0x3692b68
#6 0x902b81e8 in _mp_cfmtaskproc
#7 0x9025e364 in privatempentrypoint
#8 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9068ba54 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x93076e78 in -[nsview _propagatedirtyrectstoopaqueancestors]
#2 0x930a5dd8 in -[nsview displayifneeded]
#3 0x00017488 in -[aadstatuswindow updateprogress:]
#4 0x00016d40 in distlibprogress
#5 0x02863f30 in 0x2863f30
#6 0x028640b8 in 0x28640b8
#7 0x02b263f8 in 0x2b263f8
#8 0x02b264b4 in 0x2b264b4
#9 0x02ad0c14 in 0x2ad0c14
#10 0x02ade060 in 0x2ade060
#11 0x02aff2cc in psexecutestring
#12 0x02b199d8 in 0x2b199d8
#13 0x02b19ca8 in 0x2b19ca8
#14 0x02b07308 in 0x2b07308
#15 0x0285db2c in 0x285db2c
#16 0x0285c374 in 0x285c374
#17 0x028634b0 in 0x28634b0
#18 0x9023bba8 in cooperativethread
#19 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4 crashed:
#0 0x93075ae8 in -[nsview lockfocusifcandraw]
#1 0x9309b9b4 in -[nsview _lightweightrecursivedisplayinrect:]
#2 0x930b7cd8 in -[nsbuttoncell(nsdefaultbuttonindicatorprivate) heartbeat:]
#3 0x930d553c in -[nswindow(nswindow_theme) heartbeat:]
#4 0x9308205c in -[nsuiheartbeat _heartbeatthread:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x93075ae8 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x93075ad4 ctr: 0x90000e20 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x93075ad4 r1: 0xf01b27b0 r2: 0x24004282 r3: 0x00002c0f
r4: 0x000f9410 r5: 0x000f9410 r6: 0x000f91f0 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0x00000000 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0x000c3df0 r11: 0xa00046fc
r12: 0x90000e20 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x906c0d0c r25: 0x00000001 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x03a1e600
r28: 0x000f9410 r29: 0x039f8790 r30: 0x039f8790 r31: 0x93075850
=======================================
i hope you don’t have nightmares because of that. thanks for helping.
kurt
following what the console says. there are also a few crash files which are falling in the period when problems started.
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message from console by classic startup
/dev/disk0s9
/dev/disk0s9
jul 21 18:17:05 k-rs-computer classic[624]: autoupdate error: count of 7 localized files and 25 universal files doesn't match
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hard drive>library>logs>crashreporter
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???.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-06 17:50:46 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: unknown
pid: unknown
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000000
(null)
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba54 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x93076e78 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x93076e78 r1: 0xf0181610 r2: 0x00027410 r3: 0x000f9410
r4: 0x906c31e0 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0x00000131 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x000c3010 r9: 0x00000001 r10: 0x000c3290 r11: 0xa3072f70
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x03843da4 r14: 0x0378b7c4 r15: 0x0383b71c
r16: 0xf0181a28 r17: 0x03ad0c24 r18: 0x03ad0c00 r19: 0x00000082
r20: 0x03af717e r21: 0x03af6ca0 r22: 0xf0181a1c r23: 0x0380d5e8
r24: 0x0380d5c8 r25: 0x03807ed0 r26: 0x03818238 r27: 0x00000524
r28: 0xf01818a0 r29: 0x000f9410 r30: 0x000f9410 r31: 0x93076e0c
**********
date/time: 2005-07-09 12:08:38 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: unknown
pid: unknown
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000000
(null)
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9005ce38 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x9005ce34 ctr: 0x9001b400 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000025 r1: 0xf00808a0 r2: 0x42000284 r3: 0x00000098
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0xf0080880 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0xa0007164 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0x000a1ad0 r11: 0xa00045d4
r12: 0x9001b400 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000001
r20: 0xa2be8108 r21: 0xf0080d10 r22: 0xa2bd8108 r23: 0xa2ba8108
r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x00001103 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0xbffffab0
r28: 0xf0080a30 r29: 0x00000098 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x9005cdd0
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hard drive>library>logs>crashreporter
=============
disk utility.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-10 13:15:00 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: disk utility
pid: 460
exception: exc_breakpoint (0x0006)
code[0]: 0x00000001code[1]: 0x8fe01220
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x8fe01220 in halt
#1 0x8fe0323c in load_library_image
#2 0x8fe060d4 in load_images_libraries
#3 0x8fe02688 in load_executable_image
#4 0x8fe013b0 in _dyld_init
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x8fe01220 srr1: 0x0002f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x8fe0a004 ctr: 0x8fe28ebc mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000004 r1: 0xbffffb30 r2: 0x6b205574 r3: 0x000000f9
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x000000f9 r6: 0x0000290a r7: 0x726e6f20
r8: 0x66696c65 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0xbffff8ab r11: 0x00000026
r12: 0x8fe71b21 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x0000531c r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0xbffffdd4 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x8fe4b3d8 r25: 0x00000002 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00001984 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x8fe484d8 r31: 0x8fe09e6c
**********
date/time: 2005-07-10 13:15:47 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: disk utility
pid: 462
exception: exc_breakpoint (0x0006)
code[0]: 0x00000001code[1]: 0x8fe01220
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x8fe01220 in halt
#1 0x8fe0323c in load_library_image
#2 0x8fe060d4 in load_images_libraries
#3 0x8fe02688 in load_executable_image
#4 0x8fe013b0 in _dyld_init
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x8fe01220 srr1: 0x0002f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x8fe0a004 ctr: 0x8fe28ebc mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x00000004 r1: 0xbffffb30 r2: 0x6b205574 r3: 0x000000f9
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x000000f9 r6: 0x0000290a r7: 0x726e6f20
r8: 0x66696c65 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0xbffff8ab r11: 0x00000026
r12: 0x8fe71b21 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x0000531c r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0xbffffdd4 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x8fe4b3d8 r25: 0x00000002 r26: 0x00000002 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x00001984 r29: 0x00000000 r30: 0x8fe484d8 r31: 0x8fe09e6c
====================================================================
home>library>logs>crashreporter:
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setupassistant.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-08 19:09:21 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: setupassistant
pid: 505
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000020
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x9068ba50 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x0271b890 in -[mbchooseregisterorquit nextpage]
#2 0x922f7860 in -[mbassistantchoosepage redirectpage]
#3 0x922f1b50 in -[nsassistantsection firstpage]
#4 0x922f1d64 in -[nsassistantcontroller loadassistantdocument:]
#5 0x922f3aa0 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocument:]
#6 0x922f3b14 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocumentatpath:]
#7 0x97dfab40 in _nsnotificationcentercallback
#8 0x9016847c in _postnotification
#9 0x90165b90 in _cfnotificationcenterpostlocalnotification
#10 0x9318b16c in -[nsapplication _sendfinishlaunchingnotification]
#11 0x93161f98 in _requiredaeeventhandler
#12 0x91b56570 in _z20aedispatchappleeventpk6aedescps_mph
#13 0x91b590cc in _z25dispatcheventandsendreplypk6aedescps_
#14 0x91b56478 in aeprocessappleevent
#15 0x96a83778 in aeprocessappleevent
#16 0x9308e698 in _dpsnextevent
#17 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#18 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#19 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#20 0x00003ea0 in 0x3ea0
#21 0x00003ddc in 0x3ddc
#22 0x00003c1c in 0x3c1c
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4:
#0 0x90000d6c in read
#1 0x92393348 in sendatcommand
#2 0x92392df0 in sendcommand
#3 0x923a7c08 in setmodemcountrybyindex
#4 0x92393a88 in -[mbselectmodemcountry _setmodemforcountry:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 5:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x9023317c in tswaitonsemaphorecommon
#3 0x9023bf78 in timerthread
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba50 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x0271b890 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x0271b890 r1: 0xbfffead0 r2: 0xa22f77f8 r3: 0xa06805f8
r4: 0x92314904 r5: 0xa22f77f8 r6: 0x000001a1 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x00000533 r9: 0x01ab0000 r10: 0x901a3e10 r11: 0x0271d010
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000002 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x000830b0 r21: 0x0d9a1072 r22: 0xa3075988 r23: 0xbffff1c0
r24: 0xa22f1bc0 r25: 0xa22f1bc0 r26: 0xa22f1bc0 r27: 0xa22f1bc0
r28: 0x026476d0 r29: 0x0286b760 r30: 0x0286b760 r31: 0x0271b864
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date/time: 2005-07-08 19:09:32 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: setupassistant
pid: 509
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000020
thread 0 crashed:
#0 0x9068ba50 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x0271b890 in -[mbchooseregisterorquit nextpage]
#2 0x922f7860 in -[mbassistantchoosepage redirectpage]
#3 0x922f1b50 in -[nsassistantsection firstpage]
#4 0x922f1d64 in -[nsassistantcontroller loadassistantdocument:]
#5 0x922f3aa0 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocument:]
#6 0x922f3b14 in -[nsassistantcontroller openassistantdocumentatpath:]
#7 0x97dfab40 in _nsnotificationcentercallback
#8 0x9016847c in _postnotification
#9 0x90165b90 in _cfnotificationcenterpostlocalnotification
#10 0x9318b16c in -[nsapplication _sendfinishlaunchingnotification]
#11 0x93161f98 in _requiredaeeventhandler
#12 0x91b56570 in _z20aedispatchappleeventpk6aedescps_mph
#13 0x91b590cc in _z25dispatcheventandsendreplypk6aedescps_
#14 0x91b56478 in aeprocessappleevent
#15 0x96a83778 in aeprocessappleevent
#16 0x9308e698 in _dpsnextevent
#17 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#18 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#19 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#20 0x00003ea0 in 0x3ea0
#21 0x00003ddc in 0x3ddc
#22 0x00003c1c in 0x3c1c
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9000586c in wait4
#1 0x97e416fc in _waitfortermination
#2 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4:
#0 0x90000d6c in read
#1 0x92393348 in sendatcommand
#2 0x92392df0 in sendcommand
#3 0x923a7c08 in setmodemcountrybyindex
#4 0x92393a88 in -[mbselectmodemcountry _setmodemforcountry:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 5:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x9023317c in tswaitonsemaphorecommon
#3 0x9023bf78 in timerthread
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x9068ba50 srr1: 0x0000f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x0271b890 ctr: 0x9068ba3c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x0271b890 r1: 0xbfffead0 r2: 0xa22f77f8 r3: 0xa06805f8
r4: 0x92314904 r5: 0xa22f77f8 r6: 0x00000051 r7: 0xa1b1c1d3
r8: 0x000000f4 r9: 0x02783000 r10: 0x901a3e10 r11: 0x0271d010
r12: 0x00000000 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000002 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x000830b0 r21: 0x0d9a1072 r22: 0xa3075988 r23: 0xbffff1c0
r24: 0xa22f1bc0 r25: 0xa22f1bc0 r26: 0xa22f1bc0 r27: 0xa22f1bc0
r28: 0x02647580 r29: 0x02d34830 r30: 0x02d34830 r31: 0x0271b864
====================================================================
home>library>logs>crashreporter:
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distiller.crash.log
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date/time: 2005-07-06 17:50:45 +0200
os version: 10.2.8 (build 6r73)
host: k-rs-computer.local.
command: distiller
pid: 610
exception: exc_bad_access (0x0001)
codes: kern_protection_failure (0x0002) at 0x00000040
thread 0:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0x9022a720 in switchcontexts
#3 0x90224fc8 in yieldtothread
#4 0x9022ab80 in yieldtoanythread
#5 0x00006554 in -[aadappcontroller timerfired:]
#6 0x97df4dc0 in __nsfiretimer
#7 0x901631dc in __cfrunloopdotimer
#8 0x90148c70 in __cfrunlooprun
#9 0x90180f04 in cfrunlooprunspecific
#10 0x969a3b70 in runcurrenteventloopinmode
#11 0x969b3b00 in receivenexteventcommon
#12 0x969dabbc in blockuntilnexteventmatchinglistinmode
#13 0x9308e4cc in _dpsnextevent
#14 0x930a0824 in -[nsapplication nexteventmatchingmask:untildate:inmode:dequeue:]
#15 0x930b23f4 in -[nsapplication run]
#16 0x931605cc in nsapplicationmain
#17 0x0001d0f0 in main
#18 0x000039e8 in _start
#19 0x00003868 in start
thread 1:
#0 0x90073ba8 in mach_msg_trap
#1 0x90005ed0 in mach_msg
#2 0xc0009528 in __ape_internal
#3 0xc0001368 in __ape_agent
#4 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 2:
#0 0x9003e9a8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x9003e7c4 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x902a0d4c in mpwaitonsemaphore
#3 0x03692f14 in 0x3692f14
#4 0x03693150 in 0x3693150
#5 0x03692b68 in 0x3692b68
#6 0x902b81e8 in _mp_cfmtaskproc
#7 0x9025e364 in privatempentrypoint
#8 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 3:
#0 0x9068ba54 in objc_msgsend
#1 0x93076e78 in -[nsview _propagatedirtyrectstoopaqueancestors]
#2 0x930a5dd8 in -[nsview displayifneeded]
#3 0x00017488 in -[aadstatuswindow updateprogress:]
#4 0x00016d40 in distlibprogress
#5 0x02863f30 in 0x2863f30
#6 0x028640b8 in 0x28640b8
#7 0x02b263f8 in 0x2b263f8
#8 0x02b264b4 in 0x2b264b4
#9 0x02ad0c14 in 0x2ad0c14
#10 0x02ade060 in 0x2ade060
#11 0x02aff2cc in psexecutestring
#12 0x02b199d8 in 0x2b199d8
#13 0x02b19ca8 in 0x2b19ca8
#14 0x02b07308 in 0x2b07308
#15 0x0285db2c in 0x285db2c
#16 0x0285c374 in 0x285c374
#17 0x028634b0 in 0x28634b0
#18 0x9023bba8 in cooperativethread
#19 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
thread 4 crashed:
#0 0x93075ae8 in -[nsview lockfocusifcandraw]
#1 0x9309b9b4 in -[nsview _lightweightrecursivedisplayinrect:]
#2 0x930b7cd8 in -[nsbuttoncell(nsdefaultbuttonindicatorprivate) heartbeat:]
#3 0x930d553c in -[nswindow(nswindow_theme) heartbeat:]
#4 0x9308205c in -[nsuiheartbeat _heartbeatthread:]
#5 0x97e2cc38 in forkthreadforfunction
#6 0x90020c28 in _pthread_body
ppc thread state:
srr0: 0x93075ae8 srr1: 0x0000d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x93075ad4 ctr: 0x90000e20 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x93075ad4 r1: 0xf01b27b0 r2: 0x24004282 r3: 0x00002c0f
r4: 0x000f9410 r5: 0x000f9410 r6: 0x000f91f0 r7: 0x00000000
r8: 0x00000000 r9: 0x00000000 r10: 0x000c3df0 r11: 0xa00046fc
r12: 0x90000e20 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x00000000
r24: 0x906c0d0c r25: 0x00000001 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x03a1e600
r28: 0x000f9410 r29: 0x039f8790 r30: 0x039f8790 r31: 0x93075850
=======================================
i hope you don’t have nightmares because of that. thanks for helping.
kurt
Cheryl - Jul 21, 2005 - 3:59 pm
Kurt,
No nightmares, just the poor eyes that went cross eyed reading all those zeros.
While those crash reports were from earlier this month, Have you had problems with Disk Utility immediately after installing the update (when all this first happened)? What about Distiller?
It could very well be that the update corrupted several pieces of the system folder.
I think at this point, we have tried to correct pieces of the problem, but not getting anywhere. I think it is time to reinstall the OS X. If you do an archive and preserve, your applications and home folder will not be touched.
Start up from your Mac OS X Install Disc 1 or Install DVD. If you have different versions of Mac OS X Installer discs (for example, if your computer came with version 10.3 and you later purchased and installed version 10.4), start from the disc that most closely matches the installed Mac OS X version. Usually, that's the latest (newer) version.
Select your language. The Welcome to the Mac OS X Installer window appears.
Click Continue. The Important Information window appears.
After reading or printing the information, click Continue. The Software License Agreement window appears.
After reading or printing the information, click Continue.
An agreement sheet appears. If you agree with the license agreement, click Agree. The Select a Destination window appears.
Click the volume that you wish to install to.
Click Options. The installation options sheet appears.
Select Archive and Install.
Select the volume which already has Mac OS X installed.
You should also select Preserve Users and Network Settings, to preserve network and Home directory settings.
Click OK.
Click Continue to begin the installation.
Once done, you will need to restart. You will have a fresh OS system folder and the old one will be named Previous system.
Next - open Disk Utility and have it repair permissions. Make sure you select the second icon at the top left.
Now open Previous System folder> and trash the following:
System
Open Library and trash everything Except Applications Support, Desktop Pictures (if you added any), Documentation, Fonts, Internet Plugins, Mail, and Receipts.
empty the trash.
Next go here:
You need to download and install the 10.2.8 Combo update and the java update.
Repair permissions again after the restart.
Now give Classic a try out.
Keep me posted
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
No nightmares, just the poor eyes that went cross eyed reading all those zeros.
While those crash reports were from earlier this month, Have you had problems with Disk Utility immediately after installing the update (when all this first happened)? What about Distiller?
It could very well be that the update corrupted several pieces of the system folder.
I think at this point, we have tried to correct pieces of the problem, but not getting anywhere. I think it is time to reinstall the OS X. If you do an archive and preserve, your applications and home folder will not be touched.
Start up from your Mac OS X Install Disc 1 or Install DVD. If you have different versions of Mac OS X Installer discs (for example, if your computer came with version 10.3 and you later purchased and installed version 10.4), start from the disc that most closely matches the installed Mac OS X version. Usually, that's the latest (newer) version.
Select your language. The Welcome to the Mac OS X Installer window appears.
Click Continue. The Important Information window appears.
After reading or printing the information, click Continue. The Software License Agreement window appears.
After reading or printing the information, click Continue.
An agreement sheet appears. If you agree with the license agreement, click Agree. The Select a Destination window appears.
Click the volume that you wish to install to.
Click Options. The installation options sheet appears.
Select Archive and Install.
Select the volume which already has Mac OS X installed.
You should also select Preserve Users and Network Settings, to preserve network and Home directory settings.
Click OK.
Click Continue to begin the installation.
Once done, you will need to restart. You will have a fresh OS system folder and the old one will be named Previous system.
Next - open Disk Utility and have it repair permissions. Make sure you select the second icon at the top left.
Now open Previous System folder> and trash the following:
System
Open Library and trash everything Except Applications Support, Desktop Pictures (if you added any), Documentation, Fonts, Internet Plugins, Mail, and Receipts.
empty the trash.
Next go here:
You need to download and install the 10.2.8 Combo update and the java update.
Repair permissions again after the restart.
Now give Classic a try out.
Keep me posted
--------
Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
kuede - Jul 22, 2005 - 9:08 am
Hello Cheryl
You gave me a big job to do. If I make this OSX install, does it not affect the installed programs? To re-install all the programs would be an even bigger job than the new system install.
As I need silence to do it I 'm waiting for the weekend.
Thank you very much for spending that much time on my case.
Kurt
You gave me a big job to do. If I make this OSX install, does it not affect the installed programs? To re-install all the programs would be an even bigger job than the new system install.
As I need silence to do it I 'm waiting for the weekend.
Thank you very much for spending that much time on my case.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 22, 2005 - 5:04 pm
Kurt,
The archive install will not touch the programs you have installed. It will not touch your Home folder.
You will need to install Stuffit Expander and anti virus if you have one. Any additional drivers may need to be installed as well (if you use ProTools)
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
The archive install will not touch the programs you have installed. It will not touch your Home folder.
You will need to install Stuffit Expander and anti virus if you have one. Any additional drivers may need to be installed as well (if you use ProTools)
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
kuede - Jul 25, 2005 - 1:04 pm
Hello Cheryl
I had a hard weekend working on my jobs and I was somehow afraid of the OSX install. So I waited up to this evening. I followed your instructions step by step. After I completed the install and the OSX updates and repaired the permissions I tried to start Classic...
. . . B I N G O ! ! ! !
I can't believe it. It works again. I checked several Classic applications. They all seem to work properly. I don't know how to thank you for accompagnying me on this hard case. Also thanks very much to Ed. I will recommend this address to others who need professional help. You did a great job. If you have a wish, just tell me. Thank you, thank you.
Kurt
I had a hard weekend working on my jobs and I was somehow afraid of the OSX install. So I waited up to this evening. I followed your instructions step by step. After I completed the install and the OSX updates and repaired the permissions I tried to start Classic...
. . . B I N G O ! ! ! !
I can't believe it. It works again. I checked several Classic applications. They all seem to work properly. I don't know how to thank you for accompagnying me on this hard case. Also thanks very much to Ed. I will recommend this address to others who need professional help. You did a great job. If you have a wish, just tell me. Thank you, thank you.
Kurt
Cheryl - Jul 25, 2005 - 5:49 pm
Kurt,
That is great news ! I am glad you are up and running. I will close this ticket, and soon you will get an email with a link to a survey. In the comments section, make sure you mention Ed's name. I will make sure he sees it.
As for my wish - I could ask for... never mind. If you really want to do something, you can make a donation to macosx.com. We are all volunteers and the only thing that keeps this site going is the ads on the forum side and donations.
http://www.macosx.com/about/donations.htm
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
That is great news ! I am glad you are up and running. I will close this ticket, and soon you will get an email with a link to a survey. In the comments section, make sure you mention Ed's name. I will make sure he sees it.
As for my wish - I could ask for... never mind. If you really want to do something, you can make a donation to macosx.com. We are all volunteers and the only thing that keeps this site going is the ads on the forum side and donations.
http://www.macosx.com/about/donations.htm
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Let me know if you need further assistance and thank you for using MacOSX.com !
Cheryl
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