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ayaleloehr - Jul 12, 2005 - 8:36 am
i have tried using mac the ripper many times, and every time at the end of the extracting, it says the DVD has bad sectors. i have used many DVD's. How can i fix this??
Thank you
Thank you
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 9:50 am
Alex,
Does MTR says this for all your DVDs or for one particular
DVD ?
Is the faulty DVD you want to rip a commercial DVD or a copy you/someone made of a commercial ?
Is this message occurs only when you rip the whole DVD ? If you rip the main title, does this message still occur ?
Phil
Does MTR says this for all your DVDs or for one particular
DVD ?
Is the faulty DVD you want to rip a commercial DVD or a copy you/someone made of a commercial ?
Is this message occurs only when you rip the whole DVD ? If you rip the main title, does this message still occur ?
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 12, 2005 - 12:21 pm
Phil: thank you for trying to help.
MTR does this for all the DVD's i have tried so far. (about 4 full length and one just main feature all with bad sectors.) i am trying to rip commercial DVD's, then burn them with roxio's popcorn.
i dont know if this is me, or the DVD's, or the computer.
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
Alex
MTR does this for all the DVD's i have tried so far. (about 4 full length and one just main feature all with bad sectors.) i am trying to rip commercial DVD's, then burn them with roxio's popcorn.
i dont know if this is me, or the DVD's, or the computer.
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
Alex
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 1:00 pm
Alex, could try to use PopCorn (on a non crypted DVD, because PopCorn cannot handle crypted DVD) to handle to full chain, I mean ripping and burning the main feature (suppress laternate languages and subtitles) of a DVD you know that fails in MTR.
I cannot imagine you've 3 or more wrong DVDs
Could you also repair permissions (Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility) on the volume containing MTR. ?
I daily use MTR and/or POPCorn to burnt DVDs but I never encounter such an error
Phil
I cannot imagine you've 3 or more wrong DVDs
Could you also repair permissions (Applications/Utilities/DiskUtility) on the volume containing MTR. ?
I daily use MTR and/or POPCorn to burnt DVDs but I never encounter such an error
Phil
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 1:08 pm
Got'it man: bad sector are Archoss protection.
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MTR works fine on the new ARccOS discs for most users. The 'bad sector' errors are normal for ARccOS discs, and we're probably going to get rid of those in ARccOS modes in the future. Don't worry about that. As for ARccOS discs completely failing to rip, it seems that some drives are either incredibly slow or just plain unable to deal with ARccOS DVDs and their bad sectors.
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So, that's the DVD drive which cannot scan the DVDs
Scanning the Web for solution...well, I'm also VERy intersting in finding a solution ;-)
Phil
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MTR works fine on the new ARccOS discs for most users. The 'bad sector' errors are normal for ARccOS discs, and we're probably going to get rid of those in ARccOS modes in the future. Don't worry about that. As for ARccOS discs completely failing to rip, it seems that some drives are either incredibly slow or just plain unable to deal with ARccOS DVDs and their bad sectors.
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So, that's the DVD drive which cannot scan the DVDs
Scanning the Web for solution...well, I'm also VERy intersting in finding a solution ;-)
Phil
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 1:12 pm
On the MTR site, they said that MTR 2.6.3 is able to skip ARccOS protection
Phil
Phil
philippe99 - Jul 12, 2005 - 1:21 pm
Alex,
I found on some forums, very similar posts to this one:
"The bad sectors are normal for ARccOs discs .. MTR lets you know when it encounters bad sectors , and lets you know at the end of the rip.
this is normal.
The disc should still compress "
So my question : is the POPCorn burned DVD viewable ?
Phil
I found on some forums, very similar posts to this one:
"The bad sectors are normal for ARccOs discs .. MTR lets you know when it encounters bad sectors , and lets you know at the end of the rip.
this is normal.
The disc should still compress "
So my question : is the POPCorn burned DVD viewable ?
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 12, 2005 - 8:14 pm
no, not that i have found out so far. the popcorn DVD will not work in my regular DVD player, or a different computer.
no idea...will try to look for more forums.
any help is great
alex
no idea...will try to look for more forums.
any help is great
alex
ayaleloehr - Jul 12, 2005 - 8:28 pm
phil,
also responding to burning a non crypted DVD with popcorn, are there any non crypted DVD's out there comercially still, or would i have to make a DVD first, then burn it to have it be non crypted?
Also, what is repairing perimssions, and what does this do?
By the way, I am using MTR 2.6.6 i think this is the newest one
Thanks
Alex
also responding to burning a non crypted DVD with popcorn, are there any non crypted DVD's out there comercially still, or would i have to make a DVD first, then burn it to have it be non crypted?
Also, what is repairing perimssions, and what does this do?
By the way, I am using MTR 2.6.6 i think this is the newest one
Thanks
Alex
philippe99 - Jul 13, 2005 - 1:51 am
Alex
(1) about Popcorn burned DVD
I face the same problem and report it to Roxio without any return: these burned DVDs run fine on my home dvd player, on PS2, on PC..not on my SD. I now use VLC (www.videolan.org) to play them.
(2) About crypted DVDs
a. I buy/rent/exchange with friends DVDs of old movies (John Wayne, Clark Gable, ....) or commercially out-of-date (Indiana Jones,..) ..so no the last Benjamin Gates or Spiderman; I only face one (among more than three hundreds) crypted DVD I could not solve with MTR -> see b.
b. for the last-on-the-market or deeply encrypted ones, I use rippers on the PCs plateform: the more powerfull are free (DVDShring,..)
(3) repairing permissions
Mac Osx is a Unix system, the foundation of which is permission: as admin you can do things, another account on your machine not: not because he can log launch the application..no because he has no the permission to do it
Sometimes, permissions (see as little flags attached to applications/files/folders are corrupted.
Repairing permissions helps to correct them.
(4) Maintenance tasks (addendum)
If you mac is on between 3am and 5am, the Mac Osx performs lot of maintenance tasks to seed up performances of your machine. If you Mac is off, these tasks are not runned and sometimes (I say weekly) it would be interesting to run them.
Somme freeware like macjanitor or onyx can help you in runnning them and maintening a good healthy.
I weekly run the 3 tasks of macjanitor since 2003 and only have one KernelPanic (because the FW cable of my burner..which was burning a CD.. falls on the floor)
(5) Lecture ... for rainy days (addendum)
I would suggest you the excellent site:
http://www.thexlab.com
and especially
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintscripts.html
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintainingmacosx.html
(6) MTR 266
Yes, you'll right . I run MTR 266 on my G5 Tiger..but still have MTR263 on my G3 Panther
(7) ARCos
I send several hours last night googling/chating with friends to find a solution about locked ARCos DVDS
And damned, all my PC based friends can get rid of this protection, none of the Mac ones can. !
(8) POCorn
What I do: most of the times I burned DVDs directly with POPCorn -full or main title,..Popcorn has all the options I need-.
When Pocorn says it cannot proceed due to encrypted stuff, I extract the DVD with MTR. But, no, I do not systematically run MTR before burning the VIDEO_TS with Pocorn
Regards
Phil
(1) about Popcorn burned DVD
I face the same problem and report it to Roxio without any return: these burned DVDs run fine on my home dvd player, on PS2, on PC..not on my SD. I now use VLC (www.videolan.org) to play them.
(2) About crypted DVDs
a. I buy/rent/exchange with friends DVDs of old movies (John Wayne, Clark Gable, ....) or commercially out-of-date (Indiana Jones,..) ..so no the last Benjamin Gates or Spiderman; I only face one (among more than three hundreds) crypted DVD I could not solve with MTR -> see b.
b. for the last-on-the-market or deeply encrypted ones, I use rippers on the PCs plateform: the more powerfull are free (DVDShring,..)
(3) repairing permissions
Mac Osx is a Unix system, the foundation of which is permission: as admin you can do things, another account on your machine not: not because he can log launch the application..no because he has no the permission to do it
Sometimes, permissions (see as little flags attached to applications/files/folders are corrupted.
Repairing permissions helps to correct them.
(4) Maintenance tasks (addendum)
If you mac is on between 3am and 5am, the Mac Osx performs lot of maintenance tasks to seed up performances of your machine. If you Mac is off, these tasks are not runned and sometimes (I say weekly) it would be interesting to run them.
Somme freeware like macjanitor or onyx can help you in runnning them and maintening a good healthy.
I weekly run the 3 tasks of macjanitor since 2003 and only have one KernelPanic (because the FW cable of my burner..which was burning a CD.. falls on the floor)
(5) Lecture ... for rainy days (addendum)
I would suggest you the excellent site:
http://www.thexlab.com
and especially
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintscripts.html
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/maintainingmacosx.html
(6) MTR 266
Yes, you'll right . I run MTR 266 on my G5 Tiger..but still have MTR263 on my G3 Panther
(7) ARCos
I send several hours last night googling/chating with friends to find a solution about locked ARCos DVDS
And damned, all my PC based friends can get rid of this protection, none of the Mac ones can. !
(8) POCorn
What I do: most of the times I burned DVDs directly with POPCorn -full or main title,..Popcorn has all the options I need-.
When Pocorn says it cannot proceed due to encrypted stuff, I extract the DVD with MTR. But, no, I do not systematically run MTR before burning the VIDEO_TS with Pocorn
Regards
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 13, 2005 - 8:56 am
Phil,
first thank you!!!!!!!!
i will try these things all today (most likely tonight) and will get back to you about all of the solutions i have found.
I think it is great that someone is actually willing to help troubled customers, and spend hours of their night doing it. Thank you.
get back to you with more of what happened tomorrow.
Alex
first thank you!!!!!!!!
i will try these things all today (most likely tonight) and will get back to you about all of the solutions i have found.
I think it is great that someone is actually willing to help troubled customers, and spend hours of their night doing it. Thank you.
get back to you with more of what happened tomorrow.
Alex
ayaleloehr - Jul 13, 2005 - 9:44 pm
Phil,
i am very annoyed at roxio popcorn right now.
every time i try to compress a DVD it says "an error has occured recompressing the video."
I have repaired the permissions and will leave the comp on tonight to let it do the maintenance tasks.
I just dont know what to do with this damn program.
Alex
If it would be easier to call your company and talk to someone in person i can do that. Thanks for helping
i am very annoyed at roxio popcorn right now.
every time i try to compress a DVD it says "an error has occured recompressing the video."
I have repaired the permissions and will leave the comp on tonight to let it do the maintenance tasks.
I just dont know what to do with this damn program.
Alex
If it would be easier to call your company and talk to someone in person i can do that. Thanks for helping
philippe99 - Jul 14, 2005 - 2:06 am
Alex
(1) "an error has occur ...."
Do you have at least the same free space on your drive that the size of the VIDEO_TS folder ?
Do you run Tiger ? If yes do you run the last 1.03 Popcorn update ?
I've just scan the Popocorn forums at Toast and find anything relevant about this problem..except the problem of free space explained above
(2) Phone call
I'm afraid it is not possible; I'm a hotliner in my company attached to specific programs which has nothing to do with Mac and the only way to reach me is to give a ticket ID refereing to a registred bug.
I do help here as a volunteer when I'm idle at the hotline or at home, during the evening.
But don't worry, I do not let you in this state, I'm still looking for an answer to your problem.
When you will have check the free disk space, I think the best solution is to call Roxio or register on their site to reach the POPcorn forum to post the question
Phil
(1) "an error has occur ...."
Do you have at least the same free space on your drive that the size of the VIDEO_TS folder ?
Do you run Tiger ? If yes do you run the last 1.03 Popcorn update ?
I've just scan the Popocorn forums at Toast and find anything relevant about this problem..except the problem of free space explained above
(2) Phone call
I'm afraid it is not possible; I'm a hotliner in my company attached to specific programs which has nothing to do with Mac and the only way to reach me is to give a ticket ID refereing to a registred bug.
I do help here as a volunteer when I'm idle at the hotline or at home, during the evening.
But don't worry, I do not let you in this state, I'm still looking for an answer to your problem.
When you will have check the free disk space, I think the best solution is to call Roxio or register on their site to reach the POPcorn forum to post the question
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 8:00 am
Phil. i havev just checked my stats for the dvd burner adn they are:
matshita dvd-r uj-845e:
firmware revision: dmp2
interconnect: atapi
burn support: yes (apple shipped/supported)
cache: 2048 kb
reads dvd: yes
cd-write: -r, -rw
dvd-write: -r, -rw, +r, +rw
burn underrun protection cd: yes
burn underrun protection dvd: yes
write strategies: cd-tao, cd-sao, dvd-dao
media: no
i dont know if that helps. most of the dvds are between 4.0 and 7.0 gb's
yes i am running tiger and 1.0.3
i am going to check the roxio site.
thanks
alex
matshita dvd-r uj-845e:
firmware revision: dmp2
interconnect: atapi
burn support: yes (apple shipped/supported)
cache: 2048 kb
reads dvd: yes
cd-write: -r, -rw
dvd-write: -r, -rw, +r, +rw
burn underrun protection cd: yes
burn underrun protection dvd: yes
write strategies: cd-tao, cd-sao, dvd-dao
media: no
i dont know if that helps. most of the dvds are between 4.0 and 7.0 gb's
yes i am running tiger and 1.0.3
i am going to check the roxio site.
thanks
alex
philippe99 - Jul 14, 2005 - 8:07 am
Alex,
do you have at least 7G free on your drive before invoking Popcorn ?
Phil
do you have at least 7G free on your drive before invoking Popcorn ?
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 8:52 am
on the hard drive i have 45 Gb free.
i dont know how to check the DVD drive for free space on that
i dont know how to check the DVD drive for free space on that
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 10:50 am
Phil.
i have been waiting online to talk to roxio support for th epast hour and a half, and they still have not gotten to me. Their thec support sucks. i will keep trying to get through though...
alex
i have been waiting online to talk to roxio support for th epast hour and a half, and they still have not gotten to me. Their thec support sucks. i will keep trying to get through though...
alex
philippe99 - Jul 14, 2005 - 11:05 am
And on their forums ? (you've just to register to post question)
I do not believe in live-chat tech support..whatever they are Apple, Microsoft or other AOL...
Phil
I do not believe in live-chat tech support..whatever they are Apple, Microsoft or other AOL...
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 11:13 am
i posted a thing on their forums, and just waiting to get a reply...that takes longer but hopefully someone will come through with a good answer of how to work the progam correctly for me...
Alex
Alex
philippe99 - Jul 14, 2005 - 12:13 pm
Alex,
Could you post back the RoxioForum answer -I let this ticket opened to me-: the solution can help other people
Thanks
Phil
Could you post back the RoxioForum answer -I let this ticket opened to me-: the solution can help other people
Thanks
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 12:42 pm
i havent gotten a Roxio Forum answer yet, and i suspect it will not be until tonight, or more likely this weekend before anyone answers on the forum. i will let you know what i find out though...
Alex
i was just wondering where you are located, as it is and hours time different from New York. Just curious
Alex
i was just wondering where you are located, as it is and hours time different from New York. Just curious
philippe99 - Jul 14, 2005 - 1:37 pm
Liège, french speaking part of Belgium, one hundred kilometers below Brussels
Phil
Phil
ayaleloehr - Jul 14, 2005 - 10:20 pm
Phil
i have worked for hours (upon hours) today trying to figure this out, looking a forums and such and i have found some minor things to do. right now i am going to sleep, but i will try them tomorrow and let you know what i find. no one has responded to me on the roxio forums yet, but some other posts are like mine so they helped me.
Until later
Alex
i have worked for hours (upon hours) today trying to figure this out, looking a forums and such and i have found some minor things to do. right now i am going to sleep, but i will try them tomorrow and let you know what i find. no one has responded to me on the roxio forums yet, but some other posts are like mine so they helped me.
Until later
Alex
ayaleloehr - Jul 15, 2005 - 8:47 pm
Phil, Great News!!!
today i sent a message to a roxio support guru about not being able to compress with popcorn, and he sent me this e-mail back...
I haven't experienced this so I'm just guessing.
Make sure you use the latest version of Mac the Ripper and choose full disc extraction.
Do you have enought free hard drive space on the drive that has the converted items folder (selected in Popcorn preferences)? You need at least twice as much space available as the size of the DVD.
Have you tried Save as Disc Image rather than clicking the burn button?
What did it was moving the DVD to a Disk Image. This takes longer, about 1.5 hrs from old DVD to new, but it works so that is amazing...
Thank you for helping me, and looking at message boards and forums, i am not the only one with this problem
Thanks
Alex
today i sent a message to a roxio support guru about not being able to compress with popcorn, and he sent me this e-mail back...
I haven't experienced this so I'm just guessing.
Make sure you use the latest version of Mac the Ripper and choose full disc extraction.
Do you have enought free hard drive space on the drive that has the converted items folder (selected in Popcorn preferences)? You need at least twice as much space available as the size of the DVD.
Have you tried Save as Disc Image rather than clicking the burn button?
What did it was moving the DVD to a Disk Image. This takes longer, about 1.5 hrs from old DVD to new, but it works so that is amazing...
Thank you for helping me, and looking at message boards and forums, i am not the only one with this problem
Thanks
Alex
philippe99 - Jul 16, 2005 - 6:48 am
Great that this works. Do not know the "Save Disk Image" trick.
Regards
Phil
Regards
Phil
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