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    XDarwin & Orobor

    I know. I lost Software Update about six weeks ago. It errors out at the end of every download. If I run the OS X installer, it won't touch the directories it doesn't create, and will update, but not completely overwrite, say, /Applications, right?
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    Manual install of OSX

    Haven't you seen "Greg the Bunny," blah?
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    just interested

    The UNIX/Linux codebase, of which Darwin, but not the rest of OS X, is a part, is freely configurable, sourceable, compilable, etc... We get all the great BSD UNIX applications that only need BSD, or BSD + X-windows, without any trouble at all (except for installing X-windows; XDarwin is...
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    I rebooted and the Dock/Finder don't work anymore. Trying to launch an application from either just launches XDarwin. I give up. It was so neat for ten minutes. I just don't care anymore. Thanks, everyone.
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    OK, OK, OK--XDarwin is up and running, the Dock works, and so does the Finder. Orobor doesn't work, but what the hell does it do, anyway? Also, the X11 Clients that install with XTools don't work, but this is because they're programmed to look only for Tenon's proprietary system, not standard...
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    just interested

    When Mac OS X pundits assert the reality that many UNIX/Linux applications need only mild recompiling to run under OS X, three things must be understood as implied: 1. Straight command-line applications require just recompiling and will run just fine. 2. X-windows applications need...
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    EVERYTHING works FINE...UNTIL I install X-windows. XTools worked ONCE, but I uninstalled it to install XDarwin. Now NOTHING works. WHEN any X-windows system is installed, the Finder and the Dock no longer function for launching applications--double-clicking on an application in the Finder or...
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    10.1.4.
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    OK, OK, OK. X Windowing on Mac OS X

    Great. My system's broken. Have fun. PS--there ARE no instructions for Orobor; once you decompress it, it's installed.
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    OK, OK, OK. X Windowing on Mac OS X

    Note: If that was for my benefit: I didn't use Fink. I don't see what the point of Fink is. Fink is on my system and I have no idea how to use it. Separately, here IS a problem with my system, caused by installing and removing different X windowing systems. Tenon's XTools won't even install...
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    Alcatel speed touch

    512kbps down/256kbps up is only ~£23 per month? That's around $45 US, right? ADSL in Minneapolis, Minnesota (middle of the continental US right on 45º north latitude) starts at $50 US per month, plus $20 for ISP fees. The problem is that $20 of that is for an analog phone line; you can't get...
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    Alcatel speed touch

    Do you not have cable modem service where you are? If it's available, it's almost a sure bet that it's better than ADSL.
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    AHHHHH!!! CAN'T!!! Double-clicking ANYTHING in either the Dock or Finder results in launching whatever X-windowing/window manager is installed AND NOTHING ELSE. I'm done with X-windows for the moment. Obviously, there is something wrong. I'm buying a new machine this year; when I do, I will...
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    Thanks, BSDimwit, but no luck. I trashed the whole /usr/X11R6 directory and reinstalled, but the same problem cropped up. Am I misunderstanding what XDarwin does? To my way of thinking, it works a lot like the Classic compatibility layer does--all X applications are available from within the one...
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    A question... for the MAC ADDICTS

    Faxes are dead. They're 70s-era technology that was never really good even when they worked perfectly. That being said, CommuniGate Pro is best for large-scale faxing, while FaxSTF is the best workstation solution.
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    Fink is here. Everything, EVERYTHING, works FINE, EXCEPT the Dock & Finder--when ANY X windowing system OTHER than XTools is installed, neither the Dock nor the Finder can be used to launch applications. Attempting to do so results in the X windowing system being launched ONLY; nothing else happens.
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    What are the current revisions of each? I just downloaded OroborOSX  -  0.8p2 and XDarwin 1.0.6.1 from VersionTracker. Are there newer revisions?
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    Same result. Am I misunderstanding X on OS X? To my way of thinking, X11 applications can run side-by-side with OS X applications. Why does XDarwin take over the entire interface? As I said earlier, neither the Dock nor the Finder work for launching applications when XDarwin is installed on the...
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    Netscape or Internet Explorer????

    Mozilla 1.0.0+ has easily been the best so far. OmniWeb 5, tho', with true multithreading, looks to put EVERYONE to shame.
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    XDarwin & Orobor

    !@#$%^ XDarwin & Orobor don't work right! I installed Orobor, then XDarwin. Now, I can't use the Finder or the Dock to open applications; when I try, the X windowing system opens instead and does nothing. I can't even get basic X11 clients to run. IS THERE SOMETHING I'M MISSING?!?!!? I would...
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