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thank you for the bad news, I had assumed as much but was holding out hope... now I have to schedule a trip back up there... :rolleyes: -J

Well, after jumping a few hoops... I have an imac with slot drive cd , and after putting the 10.4.8 update I am dead in the water. The machine boots, you can login, and when the thing desktop should come up... the background appears, and the magnifying glass up in the upper right hand corner...