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Thanks Kees, okay, so if you're saying that the "startup after power failure" property is stored in PRAM, cool. But it can be switched by the OS...so if this is the problem, then the combination of resetting the PRAM and ensuring the "restart after power failure" checkbox is subsequently not...

Thanks for the help, but I think it has already been mentioned in this thread that we've tried that. I can't speak for geordie's original "can't shut down G4" situation, but I've tried multiple boot partitions, and changed the "reset after power failure" settings on each boot system used...

Yeah, it could be. I took it out last week, and blew it clean, but there doesn't seem to be much else I can do in there. The external "power button" is really just the equivalent of a plastic broomstick which pokes into the case and presses a micro switch soldered onto a little circuit board...

Hilarious! That's what I'm doing actually, and it's a real pain in the @ss. Proceedure: - shut down geefah by fave standard method - hover at wall switch until the little white light turns off - flick switch off FAST So the beast is always at least 1/4 second in to starting up again...

I have the same problem on a gigabit ethernet sawtooth g4. I shut it down, it shuts down, then restarts. Every time. I have: - run apple hardware test (all fine) - booted from four different systems (OS 9.something, OS X 10.3.9, 10.4.3, 10.4.9) - off two seperate HDs (disk one had: 9, 10.3.9...