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"Now all you (myself included) CLI fans, will cry murder, but I don't think the terminal app should even be included on the main install CD." Although there has been no official word on this, the unofficial word (from Sal ?? who is one of the Applescript gurus at Apple, and posted this as his...

It wasn't a bad example. It was a great example for me! :) "but using CLI text editors is archaic, I really don't see the advantages of doing that. " Working on your local system, I don't see any either. Wizards at them will tell you they're faster, and they probably are for people who've...

In Control Panel => Network => TCP/IP you'll find a HostName field. Try that. That's filled out with "localhost" by default. (I haven't tested this... I'm just guessing. *smile* )

For some reason I stopped getting email notifications of replies to this thread. I thought it had died and I've missed all kinds of great debate! Work is crazy right now so I won't have a lot of time to get embroiled in the discussion but did want to spew a few random thoughts. First, this...

"(well, okay, maybe that last one is pushing it just a bit - but that is what we should be aiming for... Don't you think?...) " Yes, I -do- think that's what we should be aiming for! But I wouldn't hold off the release of OS X until we arrive at quite that point. :) AdmiralAK -- Is this...

Greg, I think "almost agree" is doing pretty good for us. :) Let me just say this: If devnull software released a slick GUI interface to allow users to set up a DNS server, or full apache features, or -anything- I certainly wouldn't jeer at them! I think it'd be great, in fact! But, if some...

"Wet dream OS" pretty much describes it for me! :)

Pascal - "My fear, at the moment, being that if the importance of the GUI is not stressed enough, the importance of having a GUI for a given application might not be perceived by the Unix newcomers." Ah, that _is_ a good point. I keep thinking in terms of Mac developers who're used to...

Did everyone catch the thread pointing to the http://www.resexcellence.com/ page? An un-named developer says that Apple plans to yank the CLI from the release version of OS X. Now of course we have no way of knowing if this is a legit message, but, for the sake of argument, let's accept it at...

Ugh. I just spent about 30 minutes composing a reply and somehow caused IE to crash or quit (unsure which it was, might've been errant keystrokes on my part). Damned beta software! :) And i don't have the ambition to type it all out again, so I'll encapsulate. The 'gray area' where I...

"But the lack of interest for autoexec.bats, win.inis and other registries does not mean that Mac users are devoid of intelligence : it only means that they are not interested in the computer as a hobby. Probably in the same way that most car drivers do not have any interest in tinkering with...

LunaMorena -- Thanks for jogging my memory. Truth be told I did use the command line to install the Airport hack, so I lied when I said I'd never used it on the iBook. Thanks also for correcting me on some factoids I'd picked up from forums (that Apple intended parallel development of OS 9.5...

Hmmm. I'm probably rambling too much, as its clear you've come away from reading my post without the full context of what I said. My fault, I need to be more concise. "There is no reason why configuring a Mac OS-X workstation for IPNat should not be point-and-click easy.. Yes there are...

"Things in MacOS should not need to be "explained carefully"..... It should be intuitive, clear, and work... " (This is a quote from early in the thread, in response to someone saying that if they were explaining to their mom how to do something, he'd explain carefully how to do it via the...