Benchmark, Mac vs PC Round 2

Funny... The last PC to Mac benchmark I saw from PC Magazine that utilized Photoshop 7 had the Dual Ghz Mac coming out ahead of the top of the line Sony P4 in the majority of the tests...

I'm suspect of all the bake offs Charlie White controls. He's clearly got an anti Apple agenda, and I always feel like he skews his test to favor the PCs...

I trust the other tests from PC magazine, ZDNet and CNET before I trust this guy - even when they show the PC to come out on top...
 
you didnt say DUAL for the wintel, and its a p4

can you say amd dual.. the 2000+ (1.53 ghz, rating rumored to be compared to current gen p4s)

that ran circles around the p4 setup, so what about that against the g4s?
 
and i quote from the famous azosx

The G4 is a great processor and when apps are optimized for it, they typically do outperform the competition. Take Photoshop for example. Unfortunately, Other than Photoshop and a few other apps, not much is optimized for the G4 and AltiVec. 128-bit pipeline is great, but it bottlenecks due to inferior RAM and bus speeds. A G3 at the same MHz can be just as powerful in most instances. This is why IBM thinks the G4 is a joke. They know due to todays lazy programmers, it's all about the MHz baby!

Then you have the Athlon. It's the Dodge Viper of the processor industry. Optimized or not, the Athlon will just brute force performance out of any application. The things a beast. No optimization required.

As for the Pentium 4, it's like a Porche. Fast off the line and corners like no other but is only competition against a Viper if the driver knows what he's doing. Like the G4, if people take the time to optimize the apps for the P4 and SSE, it'll likely outperform the Athlon as well.

Dual processors are great but I'm curious as to how many Mac apps are optimized to take advantage of SMP. If they're not, they'll just run off of one processor with no benefit from the second. Even so, the nice thing about SMP is that you can open up a lot more apps without having to worry about your system bogging down. I have a SMP box and burn CDs, rip mp3s and watch DIVX movies all at the same time. People see this and think im crazy because on a UP box, your burn would screw up, your mp3s would sound distorted and the DIVX movie would drop to about 3FPS.
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Disappointing results, but as I've said before: I can still edit my video and produce DVDs faster and at a higher quality on my lowly iMac than any Windows-based PC.

-Rob
 
With all these discussions about Apple moving to x86 dark side of the force here are my two cents...

Browse here ASAP:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4541
and here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4537

I hate Apple abandoning Gx processors because MANY things will change but I hope if such thing EVER happens, they will go with AMD

Anyway, there is no denial that Apple flerts with the Dark Side and I hope that if they do such thing at least give MANY serious thoughts and not just base such a decision on stock market conditions ;(

As for this:
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/...cw_macvspc2.htm
I have to say only that people, even professionals, some times mess things up: Like when you compare Apples to oranges this is what you get!

Oh please... :D

They compare less than month old tech stuff of the Dark Side of the Force with tech stuff of the Mac Side of the Force older than 6 months! I want to see their faces when and IF they will benchmark the new PowerMacs which are around the corner (August or September maybe?) ;)

And there is nowhere to be found at that article that Mac rulez! :D
 
Originally posted by hulkaros
With all these discussions about Apple moving to x86 dark side of the force here are my two cents...

Browse here ASAP:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4541
and here:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4537

I hate Apple abandoning Gx processors because MANY things will change but I hope if such thing EVER happens, they will go with AMD

Anyway, there is no denial that Apple flerts with the Dark Side and I hope that if they do such thing at least give MANY serious thoughts and not just base such a decision on stock market conditions ;(

As for this:
http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/...cw_macvspc2.htm
I have to say only that people, even professionals, some times mess things up: Like when you compare Apples to oranges this is what you get!

Oh please... :D

They compare less than month old tech stuff of the Dark Side of the Force with tech stuff of the Mac Side of the Force older than 6 months! I want to see their faces when and IF they will benchmark the new PowerMacs which are around the corner (August or September maybe?) ;)

And there is nowhere to be found at that article that Mac rulez! :D
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Hahaha. Nobody replied to this thread so he posted it here in hopes someone would pay attention to his pathetic trolling. Classic! :)
 
AZOSX posted:
"Hahaha. Nobody replied to this thread so he posted it here in hopes someone would pay attention to his pathetic trolling. Classic!"

To me Azosx you seem to know VERY well the actions and ways of trolls... Aren't you their so-called leader? :D

Actually I had some replies which were very informative, thank you very much! But because REAL trolls like yourself cannot understand or let alone SEE the real thing, you can continue leave in your trollish M$ environment ;)

However, for those who are REALLY interested why I posted the thread in here, you can go and seek Fryke and learn what smart thing he proposed to me... Then again AZOSX you could not understand a smart thing, uh? You understand only troll-like things like your own kind :D

AZ-tr-O-ll-SX try this and you will feel immediatelly less trollish:
Buy a Mac and then you will get a life :D
 
troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook. 3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.
Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.
The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.


from here
 
i think this is the correct one
2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook.
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(BTW ed i never thought i would see such a thing from you :D )
 
if we're going to be throwing the word 'troll' around, we had best know how to correctly use it and just exactly what it means. don't you think? :D
 
I know the Tolkien one. But azosx looks more like Megaman than Troll to me :D.

The results of this test I knew before reading. Apple is just slower. I suppose it's the price for stability and many other things that make me buy an Apple and not a fast-but-unstable PC.
 
Originally posted by toast
I know the Tolkien one. But azosx looks more like Megaman than Troll to me :D.

The results of this test I knew before reading. Apple is just slower. I suppose it's the price for stability and many other things that make me buy an Apple and not a fast-but-unstable PC.
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Woodman baby! Get it right! :)
 
Originally posted by toast
I know the Tolkien one. But azosx looks more like Megaman than Troll to me :D.

The results of this test I knew before reading. Apple is just slower. I suppose it's the price for stability and many other things that make me buy an Apple and not a fast-but-unstable PC.
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Well, think again!

He is not MegaMan he is actually a character from that anime... To be exact he is a Troll-like character at that Anime :D

Then again you may know Azosx in the real world :eek: and if this is the case I feel pitty for you :D
 
My avatar looks like a piece of wood! How could he ever be confused with a green, ugly, angry troll? :rolleyes:

Ok, I've got one for you. What's green, lives alone, and has a terrible temper?

Give up?

A troll! Or wait, could it be, The Incredible Hulk? :p

Yes, yes, I know. I'm only feeding the bridge dwelling creature. Forgive me. :(
 
...whatever is shining is NOT gold!

Or that you should NOT judge a book by its cover...

Or that clothes DO NOT make us humans...

Or in your case Az-TR-o-LL-sx that because you have that avatar makes you no TROLL or that mine shows that I am one... However, your actions let us, beyond doubt, see clearly what you really are (drum rolls):

-> TROLL <-

Now, if you prefer to be a wooden one or a green one it doesn't matter! Because you see, TROLLS like yourself come at ALL imaginable and unimaginable looks and ways... ;) :) :p :D

As for feeding the creature, stop eating or you will become a fat troll too! :D And yes, you are forgived! :D
 
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