G5 could get a serious boost from Microsoft?

octane

octane

I have issues, OK!
Yes, the Beast of Redmond could very well be responsible for making your next mac that much cheaper.

Article from Mac OS Rumors:

Explosive demand for IBM's G5s is very good news for Apple. On top of the recent news that Microsoft's second-generation Xbox will be built around a trio of PowerPC 970-based IBM processors, it is now coming to light that Sony and at least two other major technology corporations are making huge investments in IBM's POWER processor division.

If Sony goes ahead with basing its next-gen Playstation on the G5 in addition to Micrsoft with its Xbox, really big things could happen with the PowerPC, things that Mac users have been dreaming about for over a decade -- the true flowering of the PPC's potential. The rapid drop in G5 pricing that would result could allow Apple not only to lower prices and increase its profit margins, but enable IBM to speed up the rollout of new POWER-family technologies. In particular, we have heard that dual-core PPC 976 "G6" processors could be seen in Macs 4-6 months sooner than previously projected...
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And why wouldn't Microsoft want Apple to succeed? It allows some limited competition in the market, in the midst of all these monoply debates.
 
EXACTLY! Microsoft should keep the life support on for Apple, and then they have "competition" and are no longer a "monopoly"... if Apple gains a market share, then it's less for Linux. Kill Linux, and they lose their real threat for enterprise solutions and deployment, especially since Mac will never win over 10% of the desktop market.

Damn. That's rather clever of ol' Bill.

*wears tin foil hat again*
 
Yeh I agree, I don't think Microsof lose any money from apple and wouldn't if Apple had a larger market share. The price Dell pay to MS to ship Windows with their PCs is far less than most apple users in corporations pay to use Office.

In fact you could say that MS have profited hugly from so many of Apple's good ideas. Is Apple the R&D department of Microsoft?
 
Ye know, I spoil you lot.

I come in here, give up my precious time to fill your empty little heads with the latest juicy mac news.

I want a raise! No .. I want a bigger raise, and a flash car .. and I want a big house to put it in!

Oh forget it! Just read this instead...
 
I was going to say, why must you make us read so much? It really makes it difficult for me to zip through new threads like I usually do. ;)

Anywho, I certainly hope there will be a Mac Renaissance (not that it's not an ongoing Renaissance already). To have Apple emerge as not only the #1 personal computer manufacturer in the world (which, despite what it looks like, they definitely are), but to capture a large chunk of the computer marketshare would be wonderful, as other companies would support Macs much more than they do now. I'm not saying they should have like 50 or 75%, but 10-15% would be wonderful, as Mac users would no longer be so insignificant a minority as to be not worth developing for in many companies' eyes.
 
Let's not forget that M$ made a large investment in Apple a few years back when things were not going very well. If Apple does well so does M$ portfolio.
In fact you could say that MS have profited hugly from so many of Apple's good ideas. Is Apple the R&D department of Microsoft?
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AlexX - Perhaps it is. Ever notice how Apple really does not get too upset when M$ tries to copy MacOS features. I look at it as a symbiotic relationship. Both sides gain from the relationship. M$ gets new ideas for its OS and then trys to implement them. Look for the next windoze version to have a unix core. Its the only way they can keep up. They will ship longhorn and xp together at first like Apple did with OSX and system9 for back compatibility. Apple gets M$ apps which keep Apple compatible in the business world. Office on Mac has more features and works better than Office on windoze and it looks better.

Cheaper Chips = more features for the same price. ie airport, bluetooth, more standard ram, more processors included ......
 
As much as people still like to draw lines in the sand, it behooves Microsoft to support Apple. And if you look at what M$ has done over time, it truly has been one of Apple's most consistent supporters.
Gee, I'm just waiting for an announcement that Nokia will start using G5s in the next round of smartphones. Imagine the Nokia 6600/G5. :D
 
speedfreak said:
Look for the next windoze version to have a unix core. Its the only way they can keep up...
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Well, if you're a conspiracy theorist like myself, there may be more than a little credence in that idea.

For a start, Microsoft have cozied up to SCO by backing them finically [I think, check with The Register]

This would allow Microsoft to incorporate Unix at the heart of what they do.

This might make things easier for them in the long run, but I still don't think it would help mitigate the plethora of problems they're having with Longyawn at the minute...
 
speedfreak said:
Let's not forget that M$ made a large investment in Apple a few years back when things were not going very well. If Apple does well so does M$ portfolio.
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The investment in Apple was NOT that significant. Apple has over $4 billion in CASH. $150 million of Apple stock relative to $4 billion is approximately 3.75% of Apple's net worth. That investment was "pennies" in the corporate world. It appeared that M$ was extending Apple the gift of life support, even Wall Street analysts made it out to be vitally needed life support - it wasn't. Besides the Apple stock purchased was not "new" stock, i.e. IPO (inital public offering), it was simply purchased on the stock exchange from ordinary people, like you and me, who owned Apple stock, that wanted to dump it. But unlike you and me, those people thought Apple was in the death throws of its last moment, so they weren't really "like you and me", you get the idea.
 
chemistry_geek said:
The investment in Apple was NOT that significant. Apple has over $4 billion in CASH. $150 million of Apple stock relative to $4 billion is approximately 3.75% of Apple's net worth. That investment was "pennies" in the corporate world. It appeared that M$ was extending Apple the gift of life support, even Wall Street analysts made it out to be vitally needed life support - it wasn't. Besides the Apple stock purchased was not "new" stock, i.e. IPO (inital public offering), it was simply purchased on the stock exchange from ordinary people, like you and me, who owned Apple stock, that wanted to dump it. But unlike you and me, those people thought Apple was in the death throws of its last moment, so they weren't really "like you and me", you get the idea.
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Back in 1997 when M$ made the investment Apple was cash poor. The 150 million was 5% of Apple's Market Value. The special stock was issued to M$ with no voting rights for 3 years. It was not purchased in the market. It was not life support but it sure did help. At the time M$ got 10% of its revenue from software sold to Mac users. I'm just saying they were covering the bases is all.
 
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