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Now, I get that it is a new video compression that will come with tiger, and i get that it is scalable, but does anyone know how it compares to divx in size-quality?
 
Yep. You get higher quality per kbps. Although the DivX group is already working on something new that might squash H.264 again. But from what I'm seeing, H.264 will be a widely used standard, so it's still going to be very interesting.
 
Feel free to experiment with H.264 right now by downloading "FFMpeg" on versiontracker.com or macupdate.com. It's pretty good but I think the apple implementation will be easier to set up, there's a lot of features in ffmpeg that take some knowledge going in to know what they do.
 
fryke said:
Yep. You get higher quality per kbps. Although the DivX group is already working on something new that might squash H.264 again. But from what I'm seeing, H.264 will be a widely used standard, so it's still going to be very interesting.
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Interesting how? H.264 will be the standard for transmitting digital high-resolution video for a variety of media. The new improved DivX will provide a more efficient means to post and download porn on the Internet.
 
You just gave the answer to your question. AlTHOUGH the next DivX version will kick H.264's a**, H.264 will still be interesting, because it's gonna be the "standard for transmitting...". That's exactly what I meant.
 
MisterMe said:
Interesting how? H.264 will be the standard for transmitting digital high-resolution video for a variety of media. The new improved DivX will provide a more efficient means to post and download porn on the Internet.
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haahhahaah.. nice post. made me laugh...
...sooo truueeee !
 
AlTHOUGH the next DivX version will kick H.264's a**,
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and leave end-users stuck for another three years before a company releases a consumer-level player that supports the hacked format.. remember. DIVX is in actual fact, a hacked-to-sh!t version of the original MPEG4 spec, from before it was ratified.
 
Pengu said:
and leave end-users stuck for another three years before a company releases a consumer-level player that supports the hacked format.. remember. DIVX is in actual fact, a hacked-to-sh!t version of the original MPEG4 spec, from before it was ratified.
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Amen!
 
It's hard to beleive that DIVX isn't a microsoft product..
*seems to work well (to most people. personally quality is always a priority)
*not really a standard, everyone just starts to accept it after a while
*constantly bringing out new versions that claim to trompt the opposition, while rendering all previous products incompatible again..
 
Since I haven't seen h.264 or this new DIVX codec yet, I can't comment on etheir's quality. From what I gather, h.264 should deliver excellent quality (course they said that about MPEG-4 too). Also, h.264 is very scalable, unlike most other codecs which have sweet spots in terms of size and data rate. So h.264 can just as easily be used for HD video and a tiny little web video. Not to mention full integration with QuickTime, a must. And h.264 has been ratified for use in both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD formats (upcoming).

DIVX can go away any day AFAIC. Admittedly, a lot of DIVX content can look quite nice. I'd just rather see a true open standard take hold (h.264). How's that for a concept? Gee, an open standard supported equally by competing companies. Not since MIDI have we seen that type of cooperation. And yet MIDI is still utterly dominant in the music world twenty years later. OK, now I"m off topic, moving on…
 
You forget that Microsoft does _not_ propagate H.264. Instead they've brought _their_ standard to Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. So it's not entirely like MIDI... ;)
 
cq107 - i wasnt saying the NEW version is. i was saying DIVX in general: past, current, future is a hacked MPEG4 codec..

that's why i prefer 3ivx. better performance than Apple's, designed to integrate with QT, and still supports the standards!
 
Pengu said:
cq107 - i wasnt saying the NEW version is. i was saying DIVX in general: past, current, future is a hacked MPEG4 codec..

that's why i prefer 3ivx. better performance than Apple's, designed to integrate with QT, and still supports the standards!
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It is true that the 3ivx codec handles standard MPEG-4 content beautifully. However, 3ivx does not play the audio tracks of unflattened DivX files. OTOH, the current version of the DivX codec plays both video and audio of DivX-encoded files, no conversion necessary.
 
in theory quicktime should be decoding the audio with whatever codec it requires, not 3ivx. 3ivx for mac doesn't do audio at all.
 
oh, i get ya. i think this is largely because 3ivx is more marketed as a mpeg4 compliant codec for mac and windows, rather than a divx compatible one. most divx have mp3 audio, so it should play.. and i wasn't aware they had hacked the m4a codec for their own use, i thought they used either mp3, ogg or standard mp4 audio??
 
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