How do you install Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X?
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doublejoint
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I don't know about everyone else, but I do just what apple suggests and didn't use a partition at all. The only reason you ever had to have a partition was at the very first stages of osx, just for safety purposes. But now osx has more than prooved it's stability, and it works like a charm. As you can see I'm running a 400 imac and it's actually really really fast. And there are know problems booting up between the two or anything. That's what I'd do anyway.
genghiscohen
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When I installed a new 40-gig Maxtor hard drive to replace the stock 6-gig Quantum Fireball in my iMac, I went kind of partition-crazy. I ended up with 6 - OS X, Classic, "pure" 9.1, 3rd-party applications, data and scratch files (gets written to and erased the most), and a dedicated swap partition.
It drives my wife nuts, but I like it.
It drives my wife nuts, but I like it.
I have iMac with a 40 gig HD.
I installed OS X on my internal iMac drive.
For OS 9, I went and bought an IDE to firewire kid and another maxtor 40 gig HD.
I did this so that it wasn't doing reads all over one disk on two partions so it wasn't fighting over seek time... so that OSX runs off the internal and Classic has it's own disk.
Althought, when I boot just into Classic, I am not able to see my internal HD with OSX on it. It is neither mounted on my Desktop nor does it show up in my StartUp Disk control pannel. I have to hold down the option key on a restart to get back into OSX.
Anybody have any ideas on what causes this?
I installed OS X on my internal iMac drive.
For OS 9, I went and bought an IDE to firewire kid and another maxtor 40 gig HD.
I did this so that it wasn't doing reads all over one disk on two partions so it wasn't fighting over seek time... so that OSX runs off the internal and Classic has it's own disk.
Althought, when I boot just into Classic, I am not able to see my internal HD with OSX on it. It is neither mounted on my Desktop nor does it show up in my StartUp Disk control pannel. I have to hold down the option key on a restart to get back into OSX.
Anybody have any ideas on what causes this?
edX
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not sure what causes it but a shortcut should be to press x key. of course if all those other thigs don't work....?
one thought is that it might be taking so long tosearch your 40's for systems that it never gets around to the internal. the reverse happens for me sorta. i run 10 and 9 from the internal but have older copies of 9 i hold onto on my 80gb external. i have always picked my system and rebooted long before it finds my other 9's on the external. i let it find them once just to be sure it would, but it took a long time!!
one thought is that it might be taking so long tosearch your 40's for systems that it never gets around to the internal. the reverse happens for me sorta. i run 10 and 9 from the internal but have older copies of 9 i hold onto on my 80gb external. i have always picked my system and rebooted long before it finds my other 9's on the external. i let it find them once just to be sure it would, but it took a long time!!
genghiscohen
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Actually, you can move /Users and /Applications to another partition. You just have to set up symbolic links, and OS X will handle the shift just fine.
ulrik
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Originally posted by genghiscohen
When I installed a new 40-gig Maxtor hard drive to replace the stock 6-gig Quantum Fireball in my iMac, I went kind of partition-crazy. I ended up with 6 - OS X, Classic, "pure" 9.1, 3rd-party applications, data and scratch files (gets written to and erased the most), and a dedicated swap partition.
It drives my wife nuts, but I like it.
No offence, but a dedicated swap partition on the same physical drive brings you NO advantage
genghiscohen
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It has the advantage of avoiding disk and file fragmentation caused by paging out. And I have seen a set of benchmark figures showing that it provides a slight speed increase, although not nearly as great as with a swap partition on a different physical drive.
ulrik
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Interesting. I red in a technical note from Apple that on the same disk, it doesn't bring anything since the swapfile itself is never deleted and thus stays at the same physical place of the disk. They did that to prevent mentioned fragmentation. The only thing which fragments the drive is once the 80 mb limit of the swap file is passed, then a new file is created which later on is deleted again. This causes fragmentation. OK, I can see the reason here to make it dedicated.
Urg, why couldn't they use the Linux file system, that doesn't fragment
Urg, why couldn't they use the Linux file system, that doesn't fragment
edX
mac shaman
[quote}Urg, why couldn't they use the Linux file system, that doesn't fragment [/quote]
probably because all this linux stuff is driving all us long time mac os users crazy!! many of us picked up a mac to avoid typing instructions to the system!!! I hated the linux part of osx the first time i had a problem aor a permission issue. i'm still not comfortable with it. but ido unerstand that it brings some advantages as well. including the uniting of people from both camps. as i grow more used to it, i am more and more ok with it. maybe by this time next year, i'll think it is better thing. but there are times i "urg" at the linux side just as you do the mac
cats do like the warmth, don't they?
probably because all this linux stuff is driving all us long time mac os users crazy!! many of us picked up a mac to avoid typing instructions to the system!!! I hated the linux part of osx the first time i had a problem aor a permission issue. i'm still not comfortable with it. but ido unerstand that it brings some advantages as well. including the uniting of people from both camps. as i grow more used to it, i am more and more ok with it. maybe by this time next year, i'll think it is better thing. but there are times i "urg" at the linux side just as you do the mac
cats do like the warmth, don't they?
genghiscohen
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Point taken. My response was overly simplistic.
What does work pretty well is moving individual users to a different partition. And I actually left the "default" set of apps in /Applications, but created a new directory on another partition for all 3rd-party non-Service-providing apps.
I was not aware of that limitation of iPhoto, either. But at least I left a goodly chunk of spare disk space available on my OS X system partition, just in case.
What does work pretty well is moving individual users to a different partition. And I actually left the "default" set of apps in /Applications, but created a new directory on another partition for all 3rd-party non-Service-providing apps.
I was not aware of that limitation of iPhoto, either. But at least I left a goodly chunk of spare disk space available on my OS X system partition, just in case.
TommyWillB
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On my G3 I had 2 drives. One was OS X + Classic (A "clean" OS 9), and the other was my OS 9.
On this new g4 I have 2 60GB drives with OS X + Classic on one.
The other is basically for backups. for now I am doing this manually, but I am anxiously awaiting something automated and foolproof like Retrospect... At that point both drives will esentially be mirrors of each other...
On this new g4 I have 2 60GB drives with OS X + Classic on one.
The other is basically for backups. for now I am doing this manually, but I am anxiously awaiting something automated and foolproof like Retrospect... At that point both drives will esentially be mirrors of each other...