Networking Printing Question from a Nooby Switcher :P

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EvidenceOfLlama

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Whatsup everyone, i just wanted to say that this is the second day i've been using my imac after many years of windows. I love how centralized and efficient everything is, my imac connects the windows network in my home better than the other xp's in my house do :P.

Anyhow, i havnt had any problems up untill now. There is a desktop in the living room that is hooked up to a router and a printer. After "adding" that printer to my laptop, i never had any issues. My imac can find the printer in "Network Neighboorhood". When i try to actually print, the printer lv icon that goes in the dock and shows the print que gives me " unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR: Connection Failed with Error.
Also, i have no problems with network connecting my imac to my desktop an laptop and pulling shared files, only to the printer.

i have seen somewhat similear threads on other forums, but all of the suggestions are different and i wanted to ask what you guys think of it.

i appreciate any help/support/suggestions, and hope you guys can solve this for me because although i do have appecare, i'd rather ask here then have to call them. thanks a lot
 
There are several things that could cause the Samba errors (Samba = server message block, or Windows Sharing).

To get around this, go to Accounts Control Panel on the PC and enable the Guest account (bottom of dialog window).
Back on OS X, Add the printer by clicking Add, then holding the option key down while clicking More Printers. Select Advanced from the bottom of the first menu, then Windows Printer via Samba. Fill in the URI like this:
smb://[IP of PC]/[printer shared name]

You can guess that if the PC ever changes IP address, you'll have to delete and re-ADD on OS X.

There are driver issues with non-postscript printers. What model printer?
 
thanks for the response gsahli.

i did what you said and got the same error :(

the model of the printer is HP Photosmart C3180, and i also tried a HP Deskjet 5150, and it gave me the same error message. Another error message i sometimes get is NT_STATUS_ACCES_DENIED.

What drivers should i get for my imac?

thanks.
 
Before downloading drivers, try these that are already on your Mac - for the Photosmart, try HP Photosmart 1100, Gimp-Print; for the Deskjet, try HP Deskjet 900 Series, Gimp-Print.

Are you sure the printer is shared on the PC? Can you turn off the firewall to try printing?
 
i tried the photosmart p1100 gimp print 5.0 beta [only one i had close to your driver name], and the status said printing page 1 18% at first, then it went back to NT status access denied. also, im sure the printer is shared, and like i said i print perfectly fine off of my laptop. the firewall on the pc is off, and i'm having difficulty accessing the controls for my wireless router so that can shut that firewall off too. i wont be able to turn off that firewall untill my dad finds the firmwear disk.
 
Let's do some lower-level troubleshooting. On OS X start the Terminal (utilities) and type this command:
smbclient -NL [put PC IP address here] (then RETURN)
(this says check for shares without login, so you'll get an error about not logging in - that's OK - we want to see the shares) Please paste the output back here.

(and - I think the deskjet 900 isn't in the right numerical order among the HP drivers)
 
Hello, I too am a new mac user with the same problems when printing to my Networked printers, I have the same HP Photosmart C3180 and a Brother HL-1440 Laserjet on my roomates PC. I get the same error messages and I have tried the above solutions to no avail.
Here is the info from the Terminal:

Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
E$ Disk Default share
DiscImages Disk
My Documents Disk
IPC$ IPC Remote IPC
D$ Disk Default share
print$ Disk Printer Drivers
Wallpapers Disk
Data Disk
carls art Disk
C3180 Printer HP Photosmart C3100 series
G$ Disk Default share
Downloads Disk
F$ Disk Default share
ADMIN$ Disk Remote Admin
C$ Disk Default share
Printer Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer

Let me know what you are thinking and thanks in advance for your help.
 
kombatkarl,
The HP is shared, the Brother isn't. The Brother will be the easier one to print to if you get it shared from the PC. This is because Brother provides CUPS drivers, HP doesn't. CUPS drivers are required for standard network protocol printing (Windows or IP printing). Look at these sources for CUPS drivers for the HP:
www.linuxprinting.org/macosx/hpijs/
www.printfab.net
 
I figured it out actually, These might help you solve your quandry though llama.
Make sure you install the Printing services for Unix on the PC with your printer. Do this in Add/Remove Programs, in the Windows components section, Check the box for Other network and file printing services. This may not be necessary but I figure it couldn't hurt.
Then, on your Mac, when adding the printer initially it should have popped up with a window to enter a user name and password to gain access to the printer. If you, like me, left the fields blank and continued on with the "Remember this password in the keychain" option set, you will need to go to the Keychain Access in utilities and delete the Application Password named smb. Then go back, remove the printer, add it again and when it pops up with the Username/Password window, enter the user account name from the PC, i dont have a PW so i still left that blank. Once you finish adding the printer it should work like a charm.

Thanks again and i hope that helps.
 
I just wanted to quickly say thanks a lot to everyone helping me out, unfortunatly i dont have a chance to test that stuff at the moment, im studying for a couple tests [yay for high school :X]

hopefully i'l try it later tonight.

thanks a lot for your time though
 
Last login: Sat Sep 16 11:08:14 on console
Welcome to Darwin!
victor-lymars-computer:~ Victor$ smbclient -NL 192.168.0.104
Domain=[COMPAQ] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
My work SL Disk
My eBooks Disk
My Documents Disk
FireFox Disk
8PE Disk
IPC$ IPC Remote IPC
print$ Disk Printer Drivers
SharedDocs Disk
My Music Disk
avatar Disk
HPScan Printer HP Photosmart C3100 series
O Disk
My Pictures Disk
Printer2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
PrinterLV Printer hp deskjet 5100 series
session request to 192.168.0.104 failed (Called name not present)
session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
Domain=[COMPAQ] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Server Comment
--------- -------

Workgroup Master
--------- -------
victor-lymars-computer:~ Victor$



as for the smb password, i deleted it from the keychain, but when i added the printer with the advanced method that gsahli posted, it didnt ask me to input any username's or passcodes.

thanks
 
YES! it works!

what i did was go to network neighboorhood, then to my network, then i chose the host computer and put in the proper username and password, and whala, it shows me the exact printer i need. then i chose the name that gsahli game me for it, and it works perfectly
THANKS A TON to gsahli and kombatkarl1942!!!!

now i can finally say i love macs!
 
Bumping, because I'm having the same problem, with the same printer, simlar setup, I imagine. I've tried the things suggested by the other users, and am hoping someone has a suggestion. When I try to add the printer using this method
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/3015.html
it says it can't connect with the username and password provided. I've tried the windows usernames and passwords of my account on that machine, and the administrator's account.

I am successful adding the printer using the methods gsahli suggested earlier, but when I try to print, I get those printing errors again.

Here's what I get from the terminal:
Domain=[TOADYCO] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
IPC$ IPC Remote IPC
print$ Disk Printer Drivers
HPPhotos Printer HP Photosmart C3100 series
session request to 192.168.0.3 failed (Called name not present)
session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
Domain=[TOADYCO] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Server Comment
--------- -------

Workgroup Master
--------- -------
EmDoll:~ Emily$


Thanks in advance!
 
What driver did you use?
It would have to be HP Photosmart 1100, Gimp-Print, unless you found another third-party driver.

Your HP-provided driver was written to support only direct USB connection.

Hope this helps.
 
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