Panther Server setting w/o fully qualified Domain Name

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I have a panther server running at my school. I want to do some experimenting with it w/o totally screwing up all 450 user accounts. So, I brought home an ibook, ethernetted it to my linksys router and installed the Panther software (I know about the copyright, but this is very temporary). Everything installed just fine. I can use my personal ibook and connect to the newly formatted ibook wirelessly, so I know I have a good connection and TCP/IP is setup correctly. I also installed the Admin software on my personal laptop so I could admin remotely. I can also startup the admin software on the ibook and workgroup manager.

Here is the problem. I have no fully qualified domain name and therefore no IP address associated with the name I don't have. When setting up the server software everything I have read says it is important to have a fully qualified name and good DNS.

My school fileserver does not have a fully qualified name since my webpage is on another machine My Panther server at school is used only for authentication and home directores. It also has an internal address of 10.0.0.101. My sonic wall router at school has an internal IP of 10.0.0.1, so this is what the router setting is in my network prefs for my server at school.

I have set up my laptop here at home using 192.168.1.105 as the IP address and 192.168.1.1 as the router address, since that is what my linksys wireless switch has as settings. Of course the linsys has a connection to the internet via Road Runner and does not have a Static address, but dynamic.

I thought this would work but when I connect to the filesever using Workgroup Manager (entering the ip address of 192.168.1.105) I get the message "you are working in a directory node that is not visible to the network. Accounts created will be restricted to this server. Use the popup menu to go to a network-visible directory node." I cannot make new users, unless I go to the local node and then they only appear on the server's users, which is not accessable via Ldap.

I have gone through several books trying to understand this, but am not having much luck. DNS is important, but if I have no qualified name, then DNS should not make a difference. So, basically, I want to set this test server up as an internal LAN without connection to the internet. How can I do this? It must be something simple that I am missing.

Thanks
 
rbarr3 said:
I have a panther server running at my school. I want to do some experimenting with it w/o totally screwing up all 450 user accounts. So, I brought home an ibook, ethernetted it to my linksys router and installed the Panther software (I know about the copyright, but this is very temporary). Everything installed just fine. I can use my personal ibook and connect to the newly formatted ibook wirelessly, so I know I have a good connection and TCP/IP is setup correctly. I also installed the Admin software on my personal laptop so I could admin remotely. I can also startup the admin software on the ibook and workgroup manager.

Here is the problem. I have no fully qualified domain name and therefore no IP address associated with the name I don't have. When setting up the server software everything I have read says it is important to have a fully qualified name and good DNS.

My school fileserver does not have a fully qualified name since my webpage is on another machine My Panther server at school is used only for authentication and home directores. It also has an internal address of 10.0.0.101. My sonic wall router at school has an internal IP of 10.0.0.1, so this is what the router setting is in my network prefs for my server at school.

I have set up my laptop here at home using 192.168.1.105 as the IP address and 192.168.1.1 as the router address, since that is what my linksys wireless switch has as settings. Of course the linsys has a connection to the internet via Road Runner and does not have a Static address, but dynamic.

I thought this would work but when I connect to the filesever using Workgroup Manager (entering the ip address of 192.168.1.105) I get the message "you are working in a directory node that is not visible to the network. Accounts created will be restricted to this server. Use the popup menu to go to a network-visible directory node." I cannot make new users, unless I go to the local node and then they only appear on the server's users, which is not accessable via Ldap.

I have gone through several books trying to understand this, but am not having much luck. DNS is important, but if I have no qualified name, then DNS should not make a difference. So, basically, I want to set this test server up as an internal LAN without connection to the internet. How can I do this? It must be something simple that I am missing.

Thanks
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The fully qualified doamin name is only really important when access from the outside world is important, otherwise use wahtever you want.

Secondly you do have a good name (the one for your website), use that and name this server e.g. homedirs.xxx.xxx. Ofcourse multiple computers can share a fqd, in general more computers are used in larger setups (seperate swebserver, mailserver, smtp-server etc.). Only the machine-name is different, they shared the same fqd.

You can and should setup DNS and assign ip-nummers for the different machines in the network. This need not to be this system, any dns server in the network should do, just add a reference to this machine with its local ip-number.


If the accounts should be shared over the network, make the server an Open-Directory server. Then all accounts can be shared over the network *thus used by e.g. the mailserver while stored on e.g. the fileserver).


Good luck, Kees
 
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