Quick question on networking

Kinniken

Kinniken

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I have both iMacs side by side connected via a short firewire cable as a test setup. The one under OSX is connected to internet via cable and is supposed to do the routing.
Using IPNetShareX (ex Gnat), I've enabled it (well, supposedly) to do the routing.
Now, how must I setup the other comp? (its under OS9). I've been toying with the TCP/IP control pannel for half an hour now, to no avail...

TIA,

Kinniken
 
What do you mean with a short firewire cable? You have an adapter, right? Or are you trying to network them with just a firewire cable from firewire port to firewire port? If this is what you want to do, I think (if nothing has changed in the last three days ;) I have to burst your bubble. You can't connect two Macs just with a firewire cable! You can boot up one as master and one as slave, which means the HDDs of the slave one (which won't boot into the OS) are mounted on the master, so you can perform remote problem fixing but you can't establish a ethernet-like network just with a firewire cable.
 
Using FireNet... it works great, speed is EXCELLENT (x2 a 100 mbit ethernet connection, at least), and both macs takes it for an ethernet connection :D
But I still have two problems...
-DNS does not work on the second mac. IE, it has access to the Internet, but only via IP... which mean it's basicaly useless. Browsing though the forum, it appears that this is a problem encountered by everyone using a comp under 10.1.x as a software router (ie, people with two ethernet cards or an AirPort network have the same problem)
-My two iMacs are normaly in separate rooms. Where on earth am I going to find a 20-meters-long firewire cable?

Like everything else I tried, this solution <i>nearly</i> works... but not quite. :(

However, the firewire part is cool. If only the guy at the shop I called had not laughed when I asked him for a 20 meter firewire cable, I would be realy pleased with myself. bah.
 
Originally posted by Kinniken
Using FireNet... it works great, speed is EXCELLENT (x2 a 100 mbit ethernet connection, at least), and both macs takes it for an ethernet connection :D
But I still have two problems...
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So you did use some kind of adapter, that's all I wanted to know.

-DNS does not work on the second mac. IE, it has access to the Internet, but only via IP... which mean it's basicaly useless. Browsing though the forum, it appears that this is a problem encountered by everyone using a comp under 10.1.x as a software router (ie, people with two ethernet cards or an AirPort network have the same problem)
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Well, I have this problem when I connect via a DHCP and choose to use a manual DHCP setup, giving myself a static IP and receiving the DNS from the DHCP server. But when I also enter the DNS of my ISP manually, everything works. Have you tried that?

-My two iMacs are normaly in separate rooms. Where on earth am I going to find a 20-meters-long firewire cable?
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If you find one, it might be quite expensive....really expensive, then again, I doubt you will find one "off the shelf". If it is physically possible, the cost would be high.

I still think the router would have been the better solution...
:rolleyes:
 
Fist, FireNet is a piece of software which I strongly suspect is little more than a GUI front-end for UNIX settings (at least the OSX version). Physicaly, all I am using is a cable from one port to the other.
For the DNS, I tried setting the client iMac to go directly to my ISP's DNS server; doesnt work.
For the cable, I know its going to be hard getting one... we shall see. An other possibility would be a firewire/ethernet adaptator, which would allow me to use a 20 meter ethernet cable.
For the router, I know it is the best solution... but unless its price in france lowers dramaticaly, it's just too expensive. And anyway I like the idea of a firewire-based network... its cool, exotic, modern, fast, and it require impossible-to-find hardware. Very mac-like ;)
 
No idea why, no idea what I did different, but this time DNS is working!!! (client is accessing it directly). My setup works fine now :) (and speed is excellent, I have both listening to a web radio @128 kb and its streaming perfectly.
Well, that leaves me with the cable problem...
 
Wow, never knew such software exists. As it seems, something DID change in the last three days (or since I last checked if such a solution is around) ;)

Could you provide me with a link to the company which makes this GUI frontend? Is it freeware? If not, is it expensive???

I certainly wanna test this out ;)
 
http://www.unibrain.com/products/ieee-1394/firenet.htm

Actualy, its not a freeware, its even pretty expensive: 78$ for two comps. They propose a demo version which gives you 30 min of network after each rebout.
BTW, checked around the net and a 20 meter firewire cable cost a whooping 350 $. That leaves the adaptator solution...
I'm getting slowly mad, running from nearly working solutions to nearly working solutions...
 
okay, what you are doing is cool... no doubt about it... but c'mon!

it is cheaper and easier to use ethernet or airport... really!

might as well not try to reinvent the wheel here with expenive solutions. :eek:
 
-ethernet requires a router. 280 €
-AirPort requires two cards. 290 €

For that matter, my magnificient firewire setup requires a 20-meter cable (400 € shipped from the US) or a firewire-ethernet adaptator (if they exist).

SO, I'm stuck with either my plugging/unplugging or having my two comps next to each other. Well, at least I learned quite a lot on setting up LAN this week-end...
 
sounds like a good time to "shop" for routers. keep an eye out. remember the 1st one i priced was $250. it was 2-3 weeks later before i ran across one at $99.

this is good you are learning all this. it will make you appreciate the value and simplicity of the router when you find it.
 
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